- Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:36 pm #388463
Not sure. "God hears all prayers, even if the answer is 'no'"?
"There ain't nothing you fear more than a bad headline, is there? You'd rather live in shit than let the world see you work a shovel."
I saw that, but I also saw plenty of references to her being thick, which I don't think she is. I would also say that of all the things you can call White Dee, racist isn't one of them. There are a lot of people like her who would say that they aren't being listened to. It's them who bear the brunt of every bit of shit that's dished out by whoever is in power and them who should be voting Labour en masse. The fact that they aren't has to be addressed.Abernathy wrote:Look, David, I know you're not a stupid man. Why then do you keep missing the point about UKIP supporting people that Malcolm and I have been making repeatedly? I'm not advocating ignoring these people - okay? However, if they persist in being wrong, misguided, and not too put too fine a point on it, fucking racist, THEN (and only then), I am - and going further, condemning their racism. Did you miss the point about "White Dee's" views being already represented within focus groups?davidjay wrote:
I'm serious about talking to her and others like her because she is representative of a lot of the nation. What do you suggest we do - ignore them?
Malcolm Armsteen wrote:A lot of people say they're 'not listened to'. As noted upthread what they really mean is they are not given what they want whenever they want it however unrealistic, wrong or unpleasant what they want is.
The Campaign Company did come up with some answers of how to engage with and detoxify the UKIP element.
Did he complain about not being listened to?Andy McDandy wrote:I agree with you both. I just can't get Adlai Stevenson out of my mind.
Ahh, yes. Many a true word spoken in jest.Andy McDandy wrote:"Mr Stevenson, you have the vote of every thinking American!"
"That's great but I need a majority to win."
For those in semi skilled jobs in deregulated sectors like construction that have seen wages plummet their gripes are neither the result of low educational attainment, far right beliefs or ignorance.Malcolm Armsteen wrote: Also, please bear in mind that Kippers have considerably lower educational attainment than the average population according to surveys. This might suggest that they tend to be even further below average intelligence than most right wingers.
Another point is that you can listen to people until you are blue in the face, but when their message is inarticulate, incoherent and ignorant, how do you act on it?
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