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By Zuriblue
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That’s a perfect illustration of this piece by Gary Younge.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... in-america

Known as Olbermann’s Dictum that the right live in a permanent state of victimhood.
By randomelement
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Arnold wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:25 am
A university expert speaks his bRanes.
TOBY YOUNG: It's no wonder degrees are going out of fashion when universities have become the Madrassas of the Left
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/artic ... shion.html
Nothing to do with the cost then, and Toby seems to equate critical thinking and looking at the evidence to make a coherent argument as leftist and if that is the case and Toby is right-wing, what does that make him. :twisted:

What would a right-wing university be like anyway?
 
By Malcolm Armsteen
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randomelement wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:20 am

Nothing to do with the cost then, and Toby seems to equate critical thinking and looking at the evidence to make a coherent argument as leftist
Yes, because the right and alt-right are now in a postmodern phase where emotion and feelings outweigh rationality and evidence every time. Highlight of yesterday's Sky News was asking passers by if they thought e-cigarettes were harmful or not harmful. A question which can really only be answered with careful study and empirical research. The fact that 41% of a slanted sample with no actual knowledge of the issues thought they are not harmful was then cited as a reason for liberalisation. We are living in insane times, and Tobes is a proud member of the vanguard.

His father must be rotating, and it's all too easy to amateur psych a conflict with him, everything Tobes does has the undertone of defying his old man and his legacy.
 
By cycloon
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randomelement wrote:
Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:20 am

What would a right-wing university be like anyway?
That's the interesting implicit question behind all this blather, because one does wonder quite what such an implication actually means, and how it would work.

In market terms, they're all 'right wing' (if we have to persist with this reductionist terminology). In cultural terms, they're necessarily places of critique and produce counterpoints (in a musical sense) to wider society. Thus aspects of them are inherently unconservative (production of new knowledge in new ways), even as aspects are very conservative (privilege, at least for the elite universities). They cut across right and left contingent not on some banal, stupid, Mailite conceit that one side promotes knowledge, the other ignorance, but rather on how they simultaneously uphold and disrupt different aspects of society.

They are working, willingly in a sense, in a marketised environment: education is a commodity, the end-goal is useful production in a capitalist system, and most (99.9999%) graduates do not turn out to be Sparts, despite alt-right delusions... but they also argue with themselves (the no-platforming phenomenon, for instance, is nowhere near as widespread as the Mail et al argues, and is in no way unanimously supported when instances do occur; the Neil Biggar issue at Oxford was debated in the Oxford Gazette at length, and, I warrant, plenty of other places too), do produce radical critiques and do provoke uncomfortable questions.

For all the blather, Young and co never do any fucking research, they cherry pick a few instances of student dissent, misunderstand it, misrepresent it, and then have the gall to proclaim they're defenders of the 'Enlightenment tradition' (often name-checked) by doing so - all for a cynical, political purpose. Irony and shame mean nothing to them. They have no interest, and no understanding of 99.9999% of anything that goes on at university. They don't read papers, they don't go to seminars or lectures, they don't get involved. They are charlatans.
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By Andy McDandy
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Young and co have long viewed the world as they did at 18 - slum it with the rough kids (but don't invite them home), be a bit edgy, try to shock, and call daddy's expensive lawyer if it all gets a bit real.
By randomelement
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They have no interest, and no understanding of 99.9999% of anything that goes on at university. They don't read papers, they don't go to seminars or lectures, they don't get involved. They are charlatans.
This seems to be the case for most politics nowadays, take and edge case on a subject and make out its the general situation.

(See tabloids also)
 
By Daley Mayle
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Hey, it ain't easy filling them Pundits Panels and Breakfast Sofas. Toby's done his time in Pundit Purgatory and, slay the fatted calf, he's returned to the fold. Similarly, Oakeshott's been released on licence and is on probation and behaving herself. Chloe Westley is currently out on bail.
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