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By Tubby Isaacs
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More challenging its readers- rail privatisation has been a great success, by an ex Cameron speechwriter.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... ins-better" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And patronising stuff about how the rest of us don't really remember British Rail properly.
 
By The Weeping Angel
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probably wrong thread but what do folks make of the David Miranda situation

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfre ... -reporters" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
 
By youngian
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Had a winge on another thread about pro terror legislation opportunist Yvette Cooper speaking out on this
Yvette Cooper said public support for the schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act could be undermined if there is a perception it is not being used for the right purposes. "Any suggestion that terror powers are being misused must be investigated and clarified urgently," she said. "The public support for these powers must not be endangered by a perception of misuse.
This is the kind of mission creep that happens when you start handing out dubious generic powers to state bodies who are either not competent to interpret these laws or just use them to invent the charge sheet.

Call me a cynic but if this happened to a UK based Arab journalist on a fringe magazine back from interviewing a Hamas leader, I doubt if Cooper would be speaking out.

Also I will be interested to see which tabloid hacks so concerned about press freedom during Leveson will be covering this large and appearing on Newsnight to pile on the pressure.

Update: Fuck me Newsnight invited Louise Mensch from New York to do a full scale Fox News style rant on this issue. If you didn't think should could become even more horrible check it out. Like Bill O'Reilly with Botox.
By new puritan
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Littlejohn's brain wrote:Then again there is this post

http://thedailybanter.com/2013/08/glenn ... documents/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This strikes me as flimsy, to be honest. If Miranda really was carrying top-secret documents through Heathrow, why did the British authorities eventually send him on his way after a few hours? Where is the evidence to back this up? There's nothing in that article beyond speculation. As yet the British security services have said nothing about the contents of Miranda's computer equipment.

Just reading through that comments thread and God it's depressing how desperate American liberals are to condemn Snowden. If this was exposed under a Republican president they'd (rightly) be all over this like a rash.
 
By youngian
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And as the article says its not 1972. What did they expect to find.

Bizarrely informed expert on this case Louise Mensch has been gobbing off again-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01fgm1h" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

She appears to know more than British MPs and journalists on this issue. Or a useful idiot parroting someones script.
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By new puritan
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youngian wrote:And as the article says its not 1972. What did they expect to find.
Pretty much, yes. Isn't it most likely that all the juicy stuff is stored in the cloud anyway?
 
By youngian
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Given the knowledge they have about NSA's Prism surveillance programme they should know a secure way of moving the data.

Going on a flight via London on a plane ticket bought by the Guardian would not be one of them.

Perhaps they have been watching too much Spooks and Miranda is their decoy.
By canus insanus
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youngian wrote:And as the article says its not 1972. What did they expect to find.

Bizarrely informed export on this case Louise Mensch has been gobbing off again-
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01fgm1h" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

She appears to know more than British MPs and journalists on this issue. Or a useful idiot parroting someones script.
She needs to realise she is no longer relevant, not that she ever really has been. I met a couple from Corby on holiday who didn't particularly seem that left-wing, but their hatred for Mensch was palpable. They suggested that her rapid exit from the UK was down to a lot more than hubby's antics Stateside.
 
By The Weeping Angel
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There is this post on Greenwald

http://paulocanning.blogspot.co.uk/2013 ... nwald.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's worth noting that is the same Greenwald who made a prat of himself over Assange last year
 
By youngian
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Littlejohn's brain wrote:There is this post on Greenwald

http://paulocanning.blogspot.co.uk/2013 ... nwald.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It's worth noting that is the same Greenwald who made a prat of himself over Assange last year
What did Greenwald say about Assange?

The Canning article makes some good points such as this Adam Curtis quote
Real life spying, according to MI6 agents I've read, is more bland, actually boring, but we think differently because, as the brilliant film maker Adam Curtis puts it:

Journalists and spies concocted a strange dark world of treachery and deceit which bore very little relationship to what was really going on.

The "aura of secret knowledge", Curtis writes, is a con, a way of maintaining power. Which puts the journalist at the centre of the current imbroglio, Glenn Greenwald, in a whole different light, as does the fact that he seems to operate unmolested by fellow journalistic stars (more of that later).
One of the things that makes Wikileaks so worthless is that Assange does not believe in editorial control (more censorship by the man) which means checking and standing up the sources. As a consequence he develops a symbiotic relationship with security agencies and anyone else who wants to post disinformation.

My concerns are about police and other agencies out of their depth and exceeding their powers with dubious catch all pieces of anti-terror legislation to harass journalists, lawyers, activist and others go about their lawful civic business. Often in a vexatious manner.
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