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By bluebellnutter
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mikey mikey wrote:Suddenly you don't know what austerity means. :roll:
Well you don't exactly appear to be in a rush to explain what it is, therefore I have to come to the conclusion you don't either.

This is like that stand-off in The Thick Of It where Malcolm Tucker is trying to find out who's on Newsnight. "Well of course I know, I want to know if you know."
By mikey mikey
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bluebellnutter wrote:
mikey mikey wrote:Suddenly you don't know what austerity means. :roll:
Well you don't exactly appear to be in a rush to explain what it is, therefore I have to come to the conclusion you don't either.

This is like that stand-off in The Thick Of It where Malcolm Tucker is trying to find out who's on Newsnight. "Well of course I know, I want to know if you know."
I posted an exellent definition in a vid. You are lying. Liar.
 
By bluebellnutter
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I don't have a spare hour, I'm a busy man. Perhaps you could summarise.

Of course I could get pissy about you calling me names like you do with lord_kobel but then I'm not you.
By mikey mikey
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I was not calling you names: I was accusing you of dishonesty. I support that accusation with a simple search of your posts using the word "austerity".

One comes up with this gem:
bluebellnutter wrote:You see, the problem is that "austerity" is achieving what it set out to do, lower state spending and create an environment for tax cuts down the line. It's rather worrying if you can't think of anywhere where an alternative, as preached by Jeremy Corbyn, has actually worked. After all, it's not as though Labour can really afford to go "who really gives a damn about economic competence" when it comes to election time.
There you have it. bbn advocating an economic policy which he suddenly "forgets" to know about.

I will say it again: liar.
 
By bluebellnutter
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I think you'll find that's actually an example of me tackling the proposed alternative to austerity as espoused by Corbyn.

You thought of any examples for that yet, BTW? Or are you still a fantasist?
By mikey mikey
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bluebellnutter wrote:I think you'll find that's actually an example of me tackling the proposed alternative to austerity as espoused by Corbyn.
So you were "tackling" Corbyn's economic policy (i.e. a halt to austerity) but this morning you posted
bluebellnutter wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the problems have ever been Corbyn's policies as such.
Eh?
 
By The Weeping Angel
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Pretty good article on the Canary's business model

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Nancy Mendoza said The Canary could not be held responsible for the death threat McKeever received following the publication of the two articles, as she did not “think there was any evidence in that case that there was a relationship between those two events”.
Funny that's not stopped the canary when it comes to producing clickbait.

The “clickbaity” remark is linked to The Canary’s unorthodox business model. Out of the website’s net profit, 50% goes to writers, 10% to section editors, 20% to the leadership team, and the remaining 20% is retained by the company itself which has two directors – Kerry-Anne Mendoza and the newly-appointed Andrew Rose. There is, however, a second step for some writers where they get paid a “flat rate” linked to the number of articles they have written.
“The top-up payment available to writers is based directly on the percentage of web traffic that an article generates,” Nancy said. The more page views an article gets, the more money the writer is paid, which online media specialist Matt Locke says can have a worrying effect on the nature of content published.
“If you incentivise writers to focus on hits, you get fast-turnaround hot takes and clickbait,” explained Locke, the founder of Storythings and publisher of How We Get to Next. “It also reinforces filter bubbles – if writers are incentivised for hits, they’ll write articles that they know will get shared by the publication’s hardcore audience. They’re less likely to write more nuanced articles, or to challenge their audience’s preconceptions.”
Another consequence, one of the former Canary writers told BuzzFeed News, is the discrepancy in pay: “You can earn anything from £100 to £4,000 month depending on how viral you go.” He claims he only managed to earn around £200 in three months of writing and copy-editing three articles a week, and called The Canary’s business model “hyper-capitalistic”.
For a supposedly left-wing website their business methods seem to be inspired by uber.
 
By Kreuzberger
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Another grim failure in the face of the the fairly easy task of understanding the way that publishing actually works.

Some things to ponder. Who else passes 50% of revenues to their writers? Who are Buzzfeed to lecture us about clickbait? Since when were headlines not important to drawing in readers?
 
By The Weeping Angel
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The problem
Kreuzberger wrote:Another grim failure in the face of the the fairly easy task of understanding the way that publishing actually works.

Some things to ponder. Who else passes 50% of revenues to their writers? Who are Buzzfeed to lecture us about clickbait? Since when were headlines not important to drawing in readers?
The problem with the canary is that's a clickbait factory that promotes conspiracy theories. it's business model is based around producing clicks therefore it means writers are encouraged to produce any old bollocks as long at it get clicks.
 
By Kreuzberger
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Conspiracy theories are unproven, alternative hypotheses. The Hillsborough cover-up was just that until campaigning journalists and the tireless families finally blew the lid off the lies. Orgreave and Bloody Sunday are set to go the same way.

These are but three examples that should make anyone wary of "proper" media whose line, at the moment, fits theirs.

On a wider note, would you like to cite three online businesses whose commercial life or death is not predicated upon user engagement. Actually, I'll make that easier for you; name me just one.
 
By The Weeping Angel
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I see so because of Hillsborough that means Portland Communications is behind Owen Smith's leadership bid? Alternative media is like alternative medicine by middle class faddists for middle class faddists.
 
By Kreuzberger
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Littlejohn's brain wrote:I see so because of Hillsborough that means Portland Communications is behind Owen Smith's leadership bid? Alternative media is like alternative medicine by middle class faddists for middle class faddists.
Of course not, and correlations are fanciful. Silly boy.
By mattomac
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To be honest the truth about Hillsborough was there in public records, no one chose to look at it bar that Journalist.

I doubt you'll find most Canary reports in public records. It's a clickbait conspiracy site for the easily amused, not even that ethical when it comes to it's "Journalists".

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