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By Boiler
Safe_Timber_Man wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:59 am
They make a really weird boast in one of their many double page spreads about Brexit today (the first 10 pages are screaming, unhinged threats and propaganda).

They've now decided that Felixstowe Port is the answer to our problems: ... s-goslett/

In arguing the case they proudly point out that 70% of the trade goods passing through Felixstowe are from Non-EU countries...

They claim leaving the EU means we can trade with the rest of the world and then boast that 70% of the trade goods are from the rest of the world...

Hang on... isn't that a re-hash of an article the Mail ran a week or two ago?
By Andy McDandy
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Yup. Reminds me of the old film clips on Playschool when they'd go to a 'big factory'* and see how biscuits were made or something.

"We went to a BIG PORT and saw some BIG BOATS and a NICE MAN told us everything would be FINE!".

*It seems that Greg Wallace now fronts a prime time series of those...
By Boiler
Killer Whale wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 10:56 am
This used to be a nursery and reception genre. Now it's prime-time.

@Killer Whale - you don't need to use the YouTube tags any more, just post the URL and the forum software does the rest.

@Kreuzberger, @Timbo - as that YouTube tag is redundant, is there any chance of removing it from the toolbar?
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By youngian
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IT (Felixstowe) is Britain’s biggest warehouse – but the doom-mongering anti-Brexit brigade would prefer that you did not even know it exists.

The vast majority of the four million containers that pass through come from outside the EU — but there are no catastrophic queues, stacks of paperwork or ludicrous checkpoints as a result.

Non-EU goods must be declared and processed, and whining Remainers insist that doing this with EU goods would cause chaos if we leave the customs union. They say the country will become a bureaucratic basket case.
It won't if you plan for it so "there are no catastrophic queues, stacks of paperwork or ludicrous checkpoints as a result." Anway I'd better get on with my mission to convince people Felixstowe doesn't exist.
By Safe_Timber_Man
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I don't know if it's just me, but The Sun seems to react to any critisism of them a lot more than they use to:

Chump Chuka

REMAIN-backing Labour MP Chuka Umunna is just one of many to lose their minds over Brexit.

His attack on our “Great Britain or Great Betrayal” front page hit new heights of thin-skinned paranoia.

It was not remotely threatening, as he claimed. We deplore any threats to MPs.

We merely made this point:

That our politicians have a simple choice between enacting Brexit in full — confident that Britain will make a success of it — or betraying the voters they empowered to determine our future.

That is not intimidation, nor a “danger to our democracy”. Unlike, say, MPs who campaign to reverse the biggest ballot box mandate in British history.

Or try to browbeat into tame obedience newspapers which robustly criticise them.

They certainly aren't celebrating yesterdays result:

Theresa May has risked Brexit and her job with botched Commons ‘victory’

THERESA May could pay an enormous price for her Commons “victory” yesterday. She may have blown up Brexit, her Premiership and maybe both.

The Prime Minister appears to have persuaded Tory Remainer rebels that Parliament can take over Brexit policy from the Government on November 30 if no deal has been struck with Brussels.

She denies it — and seems to have said something else to Leaver MPs.

Such a double-cross, of either side, would surely be fatal.

Her apparent pledge would wreck our negotiating hand in Brussels at a stroke. It would effectively abandon the crucial fallback option of leaving with no deal.

Worse, the EU would know that by December it could be dealing with friendly Commons Remainers keen to keep us in the Customs Union and Single Market, including free movement. The destruction of Brexit, in other words.

But if Mrs May simply bought herself time by stringing Remainers along they will go berserk. Which could guarantee defeats both on this Bill and later, perhaps, on Customs Union membership.

The country voted to take back control on June 23, 2016.

A dangerous level of control now seems to rest in the hands of a few backbench Tories bent on negating that historic decision.

" may have been a complete waste of time and achieved very little but TRUMP IS AWESOME"

Nicely Don

WHAT would Donald Trump have to do for his haters to give him any credit?

He has propelled a flaky, murderous, nuclear-armed tyrant to peace talks and won a promise of total disarmament.

Maybe Trump is being taken for a ride. Maybe he has handed Kim Jong Un a propaganda coup. And yes, North Korea will only have changed its ways when its bombs are provably destroyed and its people freed.

But even Trump critics should admit that Korea, and the world, look far safer now than when Barack Obama was uselessly dithering while Kim built up his nukes.
By bluebellnutter
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Bugger, how did we manage to let the existence of Felixstowe slip into the public consciousness? Has someone failed to get it deleted from Google Maps again?
By KevS
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Having been in the ancestral home of Ipswich over the last couple of days, I can confirm that Felixstowe is still on the road signs, and buses were still headed there. Admittedly, they might be falling into an abyss as they get past Trimley St Mary, but I haven't heard anything.
By bluebellnutter
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Actually one major issue with the Port of Felixstowe is the railway line connection from Ipswich, which has ancient signalling and is single-track for large parts of it's length. If more trade were to go through Felixstowe then there would need to be significant work in upgrading the signalling, doubling the track, probably installing new bridges to cater for the larger shipping containers, removal of level crossings and probably electrification as well. Currently all Freightliner trains have to change locomotives in the yard at Ipswich, and this is already extremely busy.

Realistically, this work would probably take a year to happen if it started tomorrow, and AFAIK there's been no serious attempt to do anything yet. Well that's another 6 months when you take into account planning etc.
By Andy McDandy
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Lefties don't like him, so he can't be all that bad. Besides, he's rich and got a lot of Twitter followers and you can't argue with the numbers.

He's the embodiment of the Sun's not knowing everything is equivalent to knowing nothing, and knowing nothing is easier mentality.
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