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By Andy McDandy
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So preventative measures are now a good thing, and not nannying and poking noses into our private business and who are you to tell us we're eating too much junk food?
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By Watchman
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Andy McDandy wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:15 pm
So preventative measures are now a good thing, and not nannying and poking noses into our private business and who are you to tell us we're eating too much junk food?
I thought the same...then I read...........(My highlights), wonder what Murdoch really means?
So it is welcome that Health Secretary Matt Hancock is introducing preventative measures before people get sick. It’s about time new policies were introduced to save long-term costs.
But if the NHS is to continue, real structural change needs to happen, too.

Mr Hancock mustn’t shy away from further, more contentious reforms.
 
By Safe_Timber_Man
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This is some cynical bullshit from The Sun. In all of their constant attacks on the police they use to completely dismiss the fact the force suffers from under funding. Now they finally admit it, but only so that they can rant about Foreign Aid:

(more Alt Right language too)


THE SUN SAYS Police must start focusing on REAL crimes instead of fruitless investigations

YET another boy lies knifed to death in the street — as police devote almost all their energy to “non-crime” cases. We can barely recall a more dismal moment for our cops in a generation.

Yes, they have been hard hit by manpower cuts, a fifth down in eight years. But for much of that period, crime fell.

As it did so, top cops became obsessed with political correctness, eye-catching but fruitless investigations, perceived “hate crimes” and their social media image.

They ignored trickier, more routine offences that nonetheless destroy lives.

Stop-and-search, deemed racist, was foolishly scaled back by the Home Office in 2014 only for street crime to rocket.

No wonder it is out of control now. Some 75 per cent of 999 call-outs are non-crime. Less than one in ten offences lead to a charge or summons.

Meanwhile the fifth murder in six days brings the toll to 119 this year in London alone.

Mayor Sadiq Khan claims that will take a decade to turn round. What wretched defeatism.

A dramatic new focus on core policing — far more cops on the beat, a new stop-and-search blitz, a zeal to tackle REAL crime — will do it in a fraction of that.

Met Chief Cressida Dick has seen the light. All senior officers nationwide must follow.

And the Tories must wake up to the scandalous fact that they spend more on foreign aid than policing.

It is any wonder top cops are sidetracked by virtue-signalling? Their Government blows billions doing it on a global scale.




An outright lie about Macron:

Mad Macron

REMEMBER the EU army that Remainers insisted was a myth? President Macron now wants one . . . to fight America. Yes, really.

Europe’s self-styled saviour genuinely believes the continent should arm itself to repel Yanks.

We increasingly fear for the sanity of France’s egomaniacal Napoleon. French voters have doubts too. His party polls behind far-right leader Marine Le Pen’s.

His popularity is below that of his woeful predecessor Francois Hollande.

No wonder. Macron embodies the arrogant elite EU voters are in revolt against.




And more of "Save NHS some money....no no, not like THAT!"

Bone to pick

HEALTH zealots won’t be happy until we subsist on oats and turnips like medieval peasants.

Though even they ate mutton and pork — both of which would fall foul of the latest barmy edict.

Researchers want punitive new taxes on all meat to wean us off it. Bacon would soar 79 per cent.

Pricier shopping and a less pleasurable life are apparently good for us, the NHS and the environment.

The Sun has warned before of this never-ending nanny-state meddling.

Don’t kid yourself no Government would target meat. They went after fizzy drinks.
 
By youngian
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Mad Macron

REMEMBER the EU army that Remainers insisted was a myth? President Macron now wants one . . . to fight America. Yes, really.

Europe’s self-styled saviour genuinely believes the continent should arm itself to repel Yanks.

We increasingly fear for the sanity of France’s egomaniacal Napoleon. French voters have doubts too. His party polls behind far-right leader Marine Le Pen’s.

His popularity is below that of his woeful predecessor Francois Hollande.

No wonder. Macron embodies the arrogant elite EU voters are in revolt against.


Napolean who was in a military alliance with the USA to crush the British, that Napoleon? That aside Macron is not even a Gaullist and has done more to hold his nose to keep Trump close than any other European leader could stomach. Neither does he want to realign France with Putin like the Sun's pal Le Pen. Also the UK has signed up to the Permanent Structured Cooperation (PESCO) and wishes to stay in it despite Brexit. This I'm told by Brexiters must be a different plan to secret plans for an EU army controlled by Juncker. The pitifully embarrassing low level of knowledge and debate in international security and defence realities is probably worse than Brexit. https://eeas.europa.eu/headquarters/hea ... ctsheet_en
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By Safe_Timber_Man
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This may come as a huge shock, but Rod Liddle isn't happy about the Grenfell 'pranksters' being arrested:


The police take no notice ­whatsoever when Israeli flags are burned in London by leftie demonstrators, or poppies burned by radical Muslims.

They don’t arrest the organisers of the Lewes bonfire night celebrations when they’re burning effigies of Boris Johnson and our Prime Minister, despite the considerable offence this causes those who disagree with their views.

ROD LIDDLE Grenfell effigy joke wasn’t funny — but making it a crime for the thought police sets a dangerous precedent
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7686779/v ... od-liddle/

SO, the six Grenfell Tower skanks have been released from custody by the Metropolitan Police.

These are the South Londoners who thought burning a cardboard effigy of Grenfell Tower in their back garden was a hoot. The tower even had screaming victims drawn in the windows.

Most ­normal people would think this a foul thing to do and not remotely funny. But what happened next wasn’t funny, either.

The coppers got themselves involved, clearly untaxed by the low level of crime in the city, especially knife crime.

They arrested the six men. And here’s the point — an important point and a rather scary point. They arrested them without knowing what crime had been committed.

In other words, for effectively no reason. They arrested them THEN tried to think what they could charge them with. That is a very dangerous precedent indeed and, to my mind, a perversion of the law.

So serious a perversion that I think it demands the resignation of Cressida Dick, the Metropolitan Police chief. Because clearly the arrests were ­sanctioned at the highest level and the decision was taken for political reasons.

The Met — and Dick — are never ­happier than when grandstanding for ­reasons of political correctness. This time they have taken it way too far.

They didn’t only arrest these horrible blokes (who handed themselves in). They rooted through their dustbins to see if they could find anything incriminating.

With the hope of charging them on some other matter. Maybe putting the wrong things in the recycling bin.

It’s outrageous behaviour from the police.

People make effigies largely to offend and have a spiteful laugh at people they don’t like.

The police take no notice ­whatsoever when Israeli flags are burned in London by leftie demonstrators, or poppies burned by radical Muslims.

They don’t arrest the organisers of the Lewes bonfire night celebrations when they’re burning effigies of Boris Johnson and our Prime Minister, despite the considerable offence this causes those who disagree with their views.

Nobody was arrested when an obscene, giant blimp of Donald Trump was set loose in London on the occasion of the President’s visit.

That nasty little prank had the backing of the hopeless Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan. He, of course, was one of the first to denounce the people who pulled the vicious Grenfell prank.
Because vile though it was, it was only a prank. Not a victimless crime, not a crime at all.

Having your sensibilities offended is not a matter for the police, whether you are on the Left or on the Right.

What the rest of us do is simply despise whoever was responsible and move on with our lives.

And remember that one man’s prank is another man’s outrage.

The police are all too happy, these days, to indulge in this kind of grandstanding.

To come down heavily on verbal or written hate crimes — when the victim, if they are a victim at all, is simply left a bit miffed for a while.

With the Grenfell arrests, though, they have stepped way over the line.

The only crime the six men committed was a thought-crime.

I didn’t think thought-crimes were on the statute book.





THE SUN SAYS


Feeble justice

HOW can Britain be kept safe when ­punishments are as derisory as they are?

The Prisons Minister admits 22,000-plus criminals were only jailed last year after five or more community sentences.

And 2,106 repeat knife offenders avoided prison despite the Tory “two strikes and you’re out” policy.
We can argue whether our crumbling, violent jails work.

But if routinely armed thugs are behind bars they cannot knife kids to death on the streets.

And if more villains did proper time they might hesitate to batter a 98-year-old war hero to the brink of death for his TV.

Out of order

THERE is no end to the sleaze around John Bercow’s regime at the House of Commons.

The Speaker stands condemned for a sex harassment culture that would get him suspended or fired anywhere else.

He personally faces two bullying claims he denies. He is only kept in place by Remainers who disgustingly admit they need his help wrecking Brexit.

Now the odious toad uses ancient laws to block journalists’ questions about his oily pal Keith Vaz, the Labour MP ­facing sordid claims of his own.

Our politicians’ reputation never recovered from the 2009 expenses scandal.

Yet Bercow has somehow dragged our great Parliament further into the sewer.

Tell us, PM

THE legal advice over Theresa May’s ­proposed Brexit deal must be published.

Attorney General Geoffrey Cox is a brilliant lawyer and a Brexiteer.

If he has a moment’s doubt about Britain’s ability to unchain itself from an EU customs union if no Brussels trade deal is struck, the public MUST know.

Staying in it is the worst possible betrayal of the referendum short of reversing it. Incredibly, it is now Labour policy. But Labour, the DUP and Tory Brexiteers are right to insist the Government comes clean on Cox’s verdict.

Voters have been repeatedly kept in the dark and stitched up throughout our long EU membership. Enough. Out with it.


Trump pumped

DONALD Trump has good reason to be delighted with the mid-term elections. They could even set him up for victory in 2020.

They weren’t the “big win” he claims. Though his party made gains in the Senate, which sitting Presidents rarely do, he lost the House of Representatives.

But if Democrats spend two years trying to sabotage or oust him while sneering at his millions of working-class fans, he has a simple election strategy:

Continue the tax cuts that have triggered a boom. And tell voters it will be better still without his opponents chucking a spanner in the works.
 
By youngian
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Safe_Timber_Man wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:05 pm
This may come as a huge shock, but Rod Liddle isn't happy about the Grenfell 'pranksters' being arrested:
The police take no notice ­whatsoever when Israeli flags are burned in London by leftie demonstrators, or poppies burned by radical Muslims.

They don’t arrest the organisers of the Lewes bonfire night celebrations when they’re burning effigies of Boris Johnson and our Prime Minister, despite the considerable offence this causes those who disagree with their views.


I can hear the Devils Galop as Brendan O'Neil and Liddle raced to file their copy first on this one.
 
By Safe_Timber_Man
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THE SUN SAYS As Brussels plots to lock the UK in its strangling grip forever — will the Tories stand and fight for Brexit?

SO there it is, from the horse’s mouth. Brussels aims to force Britain to stay in its ­customs union and obey EU rules forever.​​

Diplomats admit to The Sun that the terms of the “Irish backstop” which Theresa May’s Cabinet is poised to back would then be deployed to lock us in its grip permanently.

Forget those trade deals with America, China, India, Canada or anywhere else.

All would be banned.

Despite us voting for Brexit. Despite MPs voting to leave the customs union.

Despite all the Prime Minister’s ambitious speeches about a global Britain.

To get a post-Brexit trade deal, we would have to swallow crippling conditions the EU does not impose on others.

Absurdly, it would retain control over the trading policy of the world’s fifth largest economy — by then a non-EU member. And, according to Ireland’s cocky PM Leo Varadkar, we would have to stick to all EU rules. Permanently.

Can the Tories really sign up to this?

Or will they stand and fight?

Some believe we can get out of it all once we have left, next March 29.

We’re not convinced. Even if Britain could, when have we ever done anything but stick slavishly to every letter of our international obligations?

We are not French, let’s face it.



Crime copout

HOW’S this as an excuse for soft justice?

The Tory “two strikes and you’re out” rule was supposed to mean automatic jail for anyone caught twice with a knife.

But hundreds are still set free by courts ignoring the edict. Now the Tories say “repeat offenders convicted under the ‘two strikes’ rule are 20 per cent more likely to go to prison than in 2015”.

So it’s “two strikes and you’re slightly more likely to be jailed than before”.

No wonder gang members brazenly carry machetes.

It’s not just policing that needs radical change — and we welcome Sajid Javid’s claim that significant new funding is just weeks away.

It’s that our courts must get tougher, as a deterrent and to get murderous thugs off the streets.


Failing Europe

QUELLE surprise! The EU reckons Britain’s economic prospects are worse than those of anyone in its club.

And its Remainer stooges pop up like automated bots to carp about their own country being “the sick man of Europe”.

That’s the same Europe which has youth unemployment at 34, 32 and 20.4 per cent in Spain, Italy and France, compared with our 11.5. And overall unemployment in those countries of 15, 10 and 9.3 per cent when ours is four.

Of course, the EU’s forecasters are hardly likely to talk up our prospects.

But one thing is clear. Shackle ourselves to their failing model and we’ll fail too.
 
By Safe_Timber_Man
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Basically they're doing exactly what everyone said they'd do. Fail to take any responsibility and blame absolutely everyone but themselves for Brexit.
But the economic woe a no-deal could unleash, here and abroad, will belong to the EU and its Remoaner cheerleaders.
Also bear in mind that The Sun were the ones that kept calling for a No Deal Brexit, as documented numerous times on this thread.




THE SUN SAYS Remoaners and the EU are to blame if Britain ends up with a No Deal Brexit

NO-DEAL, and potential chaos, draws ever closer. Do not doubt who is to blame — the EU has simply pushed too far.

Yes, our Government has been incompetent. And Theresa May could yet try to foist on her Cabinet a national humiliation they MUST reject.

But the economic woe a no-deal could unleash, here and abroad, will belong to the EU and its Remoaner cheerleaders.

Brussels has always refused to accept Brexit would happen. Its members normally overturn inconvenient votes. In case we don’t, it insists on dictating not only when we can exit its customs union (spoiler: never) but what sort of country we can be after we have nominally “left”.

For two years Tony Blair, Nick Clegg and other Remoaners-in-chief sickeningly advised the EU how to bully Britain into negating 17million Leave votes.

If job losses and bankruptcies result, it will not be the “failure of Brexit” some idiotic Remainers crow about. It will be down to a discredited political elite helping Brussels destroy the process.

Our battered Government still leads polls against its toxic, shambolic opposition: Labour’s Brexit spokesman saying it can be stopped, his leader insisting it can’t.

Beyond the M25, voters loathe Labour’s juvenile posturing — and are increasingly enraged by the EU.

They will give credit to the Tories, but only if they reject surrender and have faith in Britain, deal or no deal.






This one also may be worth remembering if/when we start experiencing serious earthquakes:
Let’s ignore the hysteria and raise the absurdly low limit on these “quakes”.
Fracking fools

ECO warriors love scientific evidence until it conflicts with their blinkered beliefs.

So they will insist Britain is a polluting country despite our carbon emissions falling to their lowest since 1890. They will claim fracking causes dangerous earthquakes despite those tremors being weaker than a bouncing ball.

We will never see a shale gas revolution if we pander to the sort of progress-averse nitwits who wasted precious police time in London yesterday gluing themselves to the Energy Department.

How will Cuadrilla explore the potential to bring cheap energy to millions if it has to down tools for 18 hours after every minuscule disturbance? Let’s ignore the hysteria and raise the absurdly low limit on these “quakes”.

Common sense must prevail.
 
By cycloon
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So no deal IS a disaster, and it's all the Remainers' fault?

Does anyone believe this rag? On anything?

Why am I asking? I've seen the Twittersphere (funny how this part of it is never mentioned by the Sun) of the Brexiteer Rage: 'EU forcing us to do X, I voted Remain but now I'd vote Leave P.S. WHY DO OTHER COUNTRIES HAVE SELF-INTEREST WAAAA'
 
By Safe_Timber_Man
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THE SUN SAYS Theresa May’s Brexit deal must be rejected by Cabinet if we are not freed from the EU

THE Cabinet, we are told, have a “difficult” decision today. It doesn’t look hard to us.

If the “deal” Theresa May has agreed with Brussels robs us of the power to exit the EU Customs Union when WE alone decide, it is not Brexit.

If it prevents us from freeing ourselves from EU rules or courts, it is not Brexit.

If we pay a £39billion “divorce” bill without actually leaving the EU’s central institutions, it is not Brexit. It is insanity — a betrayal which cannot ­survive and must be rejected.

And if the Tories welch on their promises to the DUP they cannot govern.

Leave-backing Attorney General Geoffrey Cox should prove a good guide, if anyone’s struggling.

Meanwhile, we have a Brexit question for diehard Remoaner MPs:

Now that Angela Merkel AND President Macron have confirmed plans for the EU army you claimed was a Leaver fantasy, will you admit YOU lied to voters?



Party Prince

MOST men are thinking about kicking back a little at 70, if they haven’t already. Not Prince Charles.

He has the main role of his life ahead, as our King. We wish him every success when it comes. And we heartily congratulate him on his milestone today.

He and Britain’s No1 paper have not always seen eye to eye. But his heart is in the right place.

He has raised two fine sons, who are rightly proud of him, and is the model of a doting grandad. He works hard and cares deeply about this country and our world — but is sensible enough to accept that his campaigning zeal must be reined in once he takes the throne.

For now, Charles . . . many happy returns.



Jobs bonanza

THE latest job figures are stunning.

Nearly half a million more Brits in work than a year ago. Private sector pay leaping up by 3.3 per cent.

More and more Eastern Europeans are leaving, vacating jobs for which they were paid too little. We do not cheer it. It is just reality. Their countries’ economies are picking up, so they are off home.

Our vacancies remain high. If firms which got fat paying too little for EU workers have to shell out a bit more to attract Brits, good.




War on Press

CONTROLLING the Press is a key aim of all politicians seeking to dodge scrutiny.

It should shame any of those condemned in an international censorship report for interference with journalists.

Labour’s bans on some reporters show what would result if they won power:

A cowed Press, neutered by law, “free” to report only what Corbyn’s cult wants






And the repulsive Kate Hoey:

KATE HOEY There’s no need for an Irish hard border – it’s just a barrier put up by scaremongers

DURING all my years as an MP, the interest shown in Northern Ireland by most of my colleagues has been minimal.

Even with over a thousand members there, the party still disallows Labour candidates to stand in elections.

So it has been rather ironic that in the Brexit debate Labour MPs have been queuing up to mention Northern Ireland.

What happens at the border after we leave the EU has become the “big sticking point” causing our Prime Minister to make commitments to backstops that few understand and even fewer support.

The repeatedly stated aim of the EU, the UK and the Irish government is to avoid creating a hard border.

They never actually define what a hard border is, but I assume that they mean not having huge structures acting as barriers with flashing lights and cameras as used to be there.

It is conveniently forgotten that those barriers were only there when the IRA was active, bombing and killing our soldiers and police officers.

A border is there at the moment, although not visible.

The Irish Republic has different excise duties, VAT rates and currency to the UK.

Yet all those differences are handled remotely by technology and pre-paperwork.

If intelligence arouses suspicion about smuggling, the vehicle will be stopped.

In other words, with goodwill and co-operation, there is no need for a “hard border”.

The Irish government, in cahoots with the EU, has deliberately made the border an issue.

Unfortunately, our Prime Minister and her officials have completely fallen for it by agreeing to a backstop that would potentially see Northern Ireland being treated differently to the rest of the UK.

Implying that the peace process is threatened by a hard border is scaremongering of the worst kind.

We should be prosecuting those who are breaking the law, not allowing them to shape our policy on leaving the EU.

The Irish Republic and UK shared a common travel area long before either joined even the Common Market.

We have always had a closer relationship with the Irish than other EU citizens, and the EU has not objected.

All the Irish living in Great Britain were able to vote in the referendum and many voted to Leave.

After the financial crash in 2008 British taxpayers pumped £20billion into the Irish economy and helped bail out their banks.

Yet despite all this the Irish government is playing hardball even though they would suffer most if the UK were to leave on World Trade Organisation rules.

The EU wants to keep us locked in to their regulations and rules and the Irish seem to be doing everything they can to support the intransigent EU Commission.

Irish leader Leo Varadkar has behaved rather shamefully with some of his rhetoric and is perhaps intent on becoming a future EU commissioner.

The previous Taoiseach Enda Kenny had allowed his officials to talk to British counterparts about Brexit, but Mr Varadkar has stopped that.

The hypocrisy is breathtaking because his government has already erected a hard border against fishermen from Northern Ireland.

Pre-dating membership of the EEC, a 1965 neighbourhood agreement between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland granted reciprocal access to fishermen from each jurisdiction to fish in each other’s territorial waters, reflecting traditional and historic fishing patterns around the island.

But as a result of a decision by Dublin’s Supreme Court two years ago Northern Ireland vessels are no longer allowed to fish in Irish waters, yet Irish fishing vessels continue to benefit from access to fish in British waters around Northern Ireland.

Mr Varadkar’s government has erected and maintained a hard border against Northern Ireland fishermen in the hope that this will exert influence on the UK during wider Brexit negotiations.

Our UK government claims to be maintaining the moral high ground on these issues, but the question arises — how long does the UK keep to the moral high ground when dealing with an Irish government that is taking our goodwill for granted?

When will the Prime Minister speak out and condemn this behaviour?

When will she start speaking out in support of British citizens rather than seeming to care more about Irish views?

When will she stand up for the Northern Ireland fishing community.

It is this hypocrisy from Dublin that makes it certain that I and many other MPs will not support an agreement with the EU that panders to this kind of behaviour.
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