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Re: The Sun

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:05 pm
by lord_kobel
Factcheck have pointed out it's bollocks: http://fullfact.org/factchecks/health_a ... racy-27769" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: The Sun

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:14 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Where's the redress? Where's the balance? Is there any public body prepared to enforce standards?

Is there fuck. It's pure propaganda from a propaganda rag with strongly-alleged illegal tendencies.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:22 pm
by new puritan
Jesus. How many times have the myths surrounding that Simon Burgess case been debunked? And still they get trotted out as if they're gospel.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:36 pm
by satnav
This story also raises some interesting questions.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... urder.html

The story was written by the same reporter who wrote a piece two weeks ago claiming that an Asian security guard working for G4S had spat at and insulted a soldier at the Olympics a story which triggered a predictable response from the papers readers yet no evidence has yet come to light to prove it actually happened. With this particular story it would be interesting to know who 'the source' actually was and if the source was paid for the information. The two main potential sources would have to be either a member of staff at the prison or a visitor. Given that several journalists at the paper are currently being investigated for paying prison officers for information surely repeating the offence would be extremely reckless. If the story has come from some one who was a visitor at the prison how can such a claim be properly verified?

Re: The Sun

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:59 pm
by davidjay
Projective Unity wrote:That Rod Liddle's a funny bloke :roll:
Take the appalling case of Tia Sharp, whose dead body has now been found in the attic of her grandmother’s home.

The Old Bill came round to search the house, stamping up and down the stairs — but they decided not to bother looking in the attic.

You get the feeling that they couldn’t spot Mo Farah at a Ku Klux Klan convention.
That Rod Liddle's a cunt. Maybe not of Morganic proportions, but a cunt nevertheless.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:38 am
by D.C. Harrison
You get the feeling that they couldn’t spot Mo Farah at a Ku Klux Klan convention.
I don't know... if they were all dressed up in their hoods, it would be quite hard to spot him, especially if the only light was from burning crosses. I assume if Mo was going to be hanging round such a place, he'd have the sense to dress as to not draw attention to himself.

Maybe he should have said "quite hard to spot Mo Farah at an EDL/UKIP convention", but that would mean having a go at his mates.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:55 am
by The Red Arrow
Maybe he should have said "quite hard to spot Mo Farah at an EDL/UKIP convention", but that would mean having a go at his mates.
No challenge there - Mo would be the only sober person present.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 7:59 am
by D.C. Harrison
The Red Arrow wrote:No challenge there - Mo would be the only sober person present.
Ah, yes. Presumably they'd think he was the waiter and bellow at him to get the drinks in.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:47 am
by Bones McCoy
lord_kobel wrote:Factcheck have pointed out it's bollocks: http://fullfact.org/factchecks/health_a ... racy-27769" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Now you try telling that to Mr Sun reader when he's in full flow after his third Lager Tops.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:02 pm
by Fozzy
satnav wrote:This story also raises some interesting questions.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... urder.html

The story was written by the same reporter who wrote a piece two weeks ago claiming that an Asian security guard working for G4S had spat at and insulted a soldier at the Olympics a story which triggered a predictable response from the papers readers yet no evidence has yet come to light to prove it actually happened. With this particular story it would be interesting to know who 'the source' actually was and if the source was paid for the information. The two main potential sources would have to be either a member of staff at the prison or a visitor. Given that several journalists at the paper are currently being investigated for paying prison officers for information surely repeating the offence would be extremely reckless. If the story has come from some one who was a visitor at the prison how can such a claim be properly verified?
What they say is:
A source who visited the Category A prison in South East London yesterday said: “Everyone in the kitchen was talking about him arriving.
“Inmates are talking of death threats. You can hear his name being shouted out from cells.
If the source went into the kitchens and was in a position to hear things being shouted from cells, it wasn't just someone visiting an inmate - it was someone with some sort of official standing. Which means that, if genuine, it would be child's play for the prison to identify the person in question from their records of official visitors on the day in question. So why try to anonymise them? Could it be because they don't actually exist? I often feel that in these stories about prisoners exacting society's revenge on other prisoners of whom they disapprove, there is a strong element of wishful thinking and, in particular, pandering to the bloodthirsty tendencies of the hangers and floggers amongst their readers.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:10 pm
by Malcolm Armsteen
Narrativium.

An invention of Terry Pratchett's (apologies to those for whom this is an egg-sucking seminar). A force in the universe in which stories dominate reality and constrain events to follow established narrative paths. An allegory, of course, for the human tendency to impose a narrative on events. Or for the reptiles of the press to do it for us.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:46 pm
by satnav
This story is being presented as an exclusive in today's 'Sun' and it has also been picked up by Mail On Line.
23st cannibal’s gastric band op
Broadmoor sex killer's private surgery on NHS



Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... z241y3Uwc7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But if when you do a search for the story on google it appears that the story was actually first published in the Mirror on 27th May, so it's no really that exclusive.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:05 pm
by redpig59
D.C. Harrison wrote:
You get the feeling that they couldn’t spot Mo Farah at a Ku Klux Klan convention.
I don't know... if they were all dressed up in their hoods, it would be quite hard to spot him, especially if the only light was from burning crosses. I assume if Mo was going to be hanging round such a place, he'd have the sense to dress as to not draw attention to himself.

Maybe he should have said "quite hard to spot Mo Farah at an EDL/UKIP convention", but that would mean having a go at his mates.
But what if they saw his hands?
I doubt if he'd get away with the old " Why, Mo! How many times have I told you to wash up after weekly cross burning" line.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:25 pm
by oboogie
redpig59 wrote:But what if they saw his hands?
I doubt if he'd get away with the old " Why, Mo! How many times have I told you to wash up after weekly cross burning" line.
Blazing Saddles?

Re: The Sun

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2012 8:34 pm
by Andy McDandy
"What have you done?"

"Stampeding cattle."

"Stampeding cattle? Is that all?"

"Through the Vatican?"

"Kinky..."