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By Safe_Timber_Man
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I'm assuming The Sun probably thought this was a heartfelt final rousing speech but it just comes across as their usual fucking whining and basically translates to: "If you don't do what we say you're a traitor etc etc".



THE SUN SAYS MPs must not betray Britain today by setting aside their politics and backing Theresa May’s Brexit deal
MPs of all stripes must set aside their politics today — and vote, in the national interest, for the Withdrawal Agreement.

This is not about our future relationship with Europe and the world. Nor should it be about manoeuvring in the detached Westminster bubble.

It is instead, on the day that we were SUPPOSED to be leaving the European Union, the last chance to preserve whatever shred of faith is left in our Parliamentary democracy.

It is increasingly clear that the Prime Minister will need Labour votes to ensure that Westminster honours the Referendum result.

The Labour frontbench has no interest in being constructive on Brexit, no matter what’s best for the country. Their sole interest is crashing the Government.

But for Labour backbenchers — many of whom are decent, honest politicians — we have one question:

Do you side with the North London dinner party set surrounding Jeremy Corbyn, a leader you know in your heart of hearts isn’t fit to lead this country, or with your voters and the communities you represent?

In their millions, they said they wanted out. They must be listened to.

Westminster still doesn’t seem to have clocked there is so much at stake on what was meant to be a momentous day.

The leaflet sent to every home in 2016 could not have been clearer.

“This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide.”

And the two-year-old Article 50 letter promised to deliver “the democratic decision of the people of the UK”.

We should be leaving this evening, at 11pm. That we are not is the result of a collective failure of our MPs.

It is a failure that, if repeated, will never be forgiven.

This isn’t about politics or party advantage any more.

It is about the very foundations of our country.

There are many battles to come about Britain’s future — about a customs union, a single market, and everything else under the sun.

Voting for today’s motion doesn’t rule out any one of those options, and indeed is required for many of them anyway.

But it DOES deliver on 17.4 million votes.

A failure to get the deal across the line today could be the death knell of the Tory party as we know it and open the door to the most dangerous Government Britain has ever seen — and a soft Brexit or none at all.

Unless they change course today, the ERG refuseniks will take their fair share of the blame when the history books are written.

Westminster must finally rise to the occasion.
 
By youngian
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Instead of being out, MPs have contrived to put Britain’s fate in EU hands. Three years after voting to leave we face the global humiliation of having to field new candidates in Brussels elections.
Holding an election to a parliament is the root cause of the UK's global humiliation? Its getting pitiful now
Instead it is now possible, probable even, that Brexit will never happen.
That'll be a narrow escape for the Sun who can look forward to ten years of 'look what you could have won' instead Sunsplaining to their readers why Brexit isn't a flaming tower of shit. Things are looking grim if the bluster bollox gobshite Sun is using the word 'probable'?
 
By Safe_Timber_Man
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This is un-fucking-believable. The Sun are obviously worried about a 2nd vote so now they're trying to claim that a 2nd vote would be rigged and that the result wouldn't count.

RIGGED VOTE

Leave would win a second referendum in a fair fight. Which is why it won’t be fair.

The rich Remainer establishment will stitch it up from start to finish.

First they will prevent Vote Leave, the 2016 winning team, running the Brexit campaign. Why else has the Remainer-stuffed Electoral Commission been so disproportionately harsh on them?

The vote will then be Remain vs a “soft Brexit”, or Theresa May’s deal, both loathed by many Leavers. No Deal? Not on the ballot. And, of course, they will all solemnly vow to honour THIS result.

Which they will then do... as long as it’s a “confirmatory” vote to Remain.





And now just lashing out at random targets:

HE'S SNOW JOKE

Channel 4’s Jon Snow claims not to recall shouting “f*** the Tories”. But everyone heard him sneer at Brexit voters.

He told his viewers he’d “never seen so many white people” at their demo. Did he not see the “people’s vote” jamboree?

Channel 4 must, by law, be politically impartial. Yet its main news presenter is so overflowing with leftie, Brexit-hating “woke” self-righteousness he cannot help it spewing out on live TV.

Pension off this 71-year-old teenager.






And their usual tantrum blaming everyone but themselves:


Britain is betrayed in yet another farcical Brexit stalemate — and customs union plan is a shameful sellout by MPs

ANOTHER farcical Commons stalemate. But at last ­Labour has picked a side: It chose Remainers — and threw its Leave voters under the Brexit bus.

They wanted immigration control: Corbyn says No. They wanted freedom from EU courts: Corbyn says No.

They wanted to stop paying Brussels billions: Corbyn says No. They wanted control over our economic future: Corbyn says No. They wanted MPs to respect the referendum: Corbyn says No.

In fact, he now wants a second vote.

Labour finally turned against Brexit by backing the deviously mistitled “Common Market 2.0”. It is tempting to think some MPs supported it, and the permanent customs union, as an April Fool. But it was mainly cynical calculation, or in some cases rank stupidity.

Labour just wants to wreck the Tories.

Other dim MPs considered these positions “compromises”. More cunning Remainers suspect either is a route back to EU membership. In fact they would trigger a clamour to do Brexit properly.

“Common Market 2.0” effectively means staying in the EU without any say.

Permanent customs union robs the world’s fifth largest economy of an independent trading future.

Take back control? We’d have permanently surrendered the control we have.

The Tory ERG can threaten to collapse their own Government over Theresa May’s deal, sacrificing their jobs, becoming Brexit martyrs. But the alternative futures are now much worse.

And while MPs haven’t yet given ANY plan the nod, their shameful sellout of Brexit and our future is inching closer.
 
By Safe_Timber_Man
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The Sun haven't gone quite as apeshit about this as I thought they would. Maybe they quite like the idea of shifting the blame for Brexshit onto Corbyn.

THE SUN SAYS Unlike Theresa May, her Brexit helper Jeremy Corbyn will put his Marxist opportunist-led party before country

THE Prime Minister has more faith in ­Jeremy Corbyn than we do.

Ever since 17.4 million people voted to leave the EU, he’s been shamelessly two-faced, claiming to work for the national interest whilst doing everything he can to implode the Government.

Corbyn and his cronies have claimed that Labour’s magical unicorn of a plan — of customs union membership “with a say” on future trade deals — is acceptable to Brussels. Well, let’s see it.

It is a crying shame that a clean break was effectively taken off the table years ago by this Government’s, and particularly this Chancellor’s, refusal to properly prepare for No Deal.

And those ERG hardliners, who refused to confront reality over not one, not two but three votes, deserve plenty of flak too. They can’t say they weren’t warned.

We loathe the idea of a softer Brexit. But at least it would unblock this paralysing stalemate. And we know Parliament will now do anything to avoid No Deal — even revoking Brexit completely.

But it is vital — for the public’s faith in democracy — that the Withdrawal Agreement is passed and we aren’t forced to hold European elections.

And an optimist must hope that the Tories are able to win a mandate in future to leave whatever customs fudge we end up in.

All of this assumes that the Marxist opportunists in charge of the Labour Party don’t use this crisis to win themselves some party political points.

The frontbench want the Government to collapse so they can force a General Election on the country.

The backbenches, with a vanishingly small number of honourable exceptions, are full of elitist Remainers who are ­desperate to overturn the Brexit vote, come what may.

There’s every chance their condition for talks is a confirmatory referendum. The PM must be clear: that won’t fly.

Nobody can ever accuse Theresa May of putting party before country. Her decision could split hers right down the middle.

It’s now time to see if Jeremy Corbyn has the same moral fibre. Previous evidence – over not just the past few years but a lifetime – suggests otherwise.
 
By Bones McCoy
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They can't tell us why these are good or bad things any more.

These abstract ideas like "softer brexit" or "which party delivers it" have become articles of a fundamentalist faith.

As for the most recent editorial, it looks as through somebody took a factual account of Brexit so far, then tipp-exed out all the inconvenient names, and wrote in the ones they'd like to blame.
 
By Safe_Timber_Man
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Bones McCoy wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:36 pm

As for the most recent editorial, it looks as through somebody took a factual account of Brexit so far, then tipp-exed out all the inconvenient names, and wrote in the ones they'd like to blame.

So true.

Such as:
It is a crying shame that a clean break was effectively taken off the table years ago by this Government’s, and particularly this Chancellor’s, refusal to properly prepare for No Deal
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