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Re: The Sun

Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:01 pm
by Bones McCoy
Rupert's tax peril.

Remember when raising the tax threshold to unburden the least well off was seen as a good thing.
Remember when ZANU Liebor Broon condemnened "millions" (of em!) to the 10p rate
Remember when we hoped that full time work would pay a decent income.

Remind me how much tax Uncle Rupert pays?

Spare us the grief of the one percent..

Re: The Sun

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:48 am
by Dan
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9677766/n ... ds-brexit/

The last few articles, including the Kavanagh one, shows they are completely and utterly rattled when this should be their moment.

They know and they know the majority know that what is being done, despite their wails of democracy, is dictatorial, an attempted coup and everything they would scream bloody murder about if a Labour government did this. Hence, they are misinterpreting Grieve who has only said that going to the Queen would be an option if Johnson lost a vote of no confidence and refused to acknowledge it. Not the first option.

Their hysteria actually makes me feel a bit better.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:10 am
by youngian
Remoaner Gina Miller, the litigious egomaniac spending her fortune negating 17.4million little people’s votes, aims to SUE Boris.

Wouldn’t an egomaniac spend their fortune on themselves?

The Sun will be quoting David Starkey tomorrow who claims Corbyn could be arrested for treason for asking the Queen to be PM. Starkey you may recall is a rentagob Tudor historian who makes facile comparisons to Henry VIII.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2019 6:50 am
by Boiler
Telegraph has said it today and yes, once again the 'coup' word has been uttered.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:06 pm
by Safe_Timber_Man
They're just going through the motions again.

Brexit = Good.
Remoaners.
Project Fear
etc



THE SUN SAYS Boris’s Global Britain pledge is one in the eye for Remainers who think Brexit is about pulling up the drawbridge

WELL, that’s one in the eye for the Remainers who think Brexit is all about pulling up the drawbridge.

Boris’s announcement that — once we’ve left — the UK will welcome the best and brightest science minds from around the world is a real commitment to a truly Global Britain.

It marks an end to the absurd state of affairs in which we had an open door to anybody born in the EU, regardless of their talents, and were effectively forced to slam another door in the face of those who have shown themselves to be leaders in their fields.

There are still those who think that the vote to leave the EU was an anti-immigrant vote. It wasn’t. It was a vote to take back control.

And as we look towards our departure, this Government must deliver an open immigration system that welcomes those who will contribute to the economy and life of our great country.

With a say on who comes in — and who doesn’t — we’ll be able to ensure our public services are ready for a population increase and that the supply of houses goes up as quickly as it needs to.

Don’t believe the doomsayers. Once we’re free of Brussels’ grip this country can take its place back at the very top of the world. A magnet for hard-working, talented people, who can take our already successful businesses to the next level.

It’s another clear reason why, no matter how messy our departure sometimes seems, and how long it is taking…

Britain is still better off out.








Fear we go

JUST when you thought Project Fear was dead, here comes the BBC to stick it on life support.

We’ve had such a constant barrage of scare stories about a clean break Brexit that anybody who believed them all would have run for the hills with a decade’s worth of spam and a shotgun.

This week there have been panicked predictions of rationing and cattle culls and warnings from US economist Larry Summers — who some see as one of the architects of the 2008 financial crisis — that we’re a “desperate” nation which can’t hope for a decent US trade deal.

Given rather less fanfare by Auntie was a letter from Republican Senators pledging to deliver just that.

Some comfort is that nobody’s buying it any more.

The public is rapidly losing faith in the Beeb.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:42 pm
by youngian
Given rather less fanfare by Auntie was a letter from Republican Senators pledging to deliver just that.

They’re referring to a Tea Party Brexit group of senators who were on hand to provide some false equivalence on the BBC’s flagship current affairs programme Today.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 1:35 pm
by cycloon
It marks an end to the absurd state of affairs in which we had an open door to anybody born in the EU, regardless of their talents, and were effectively forced to slam another door in the face of those who have shown themselves to be leaders in their fields.
Did this ever happen? Being in an HE environment I have never heard of an academic in any field being denied entry in favour of a Polish plumber. Nor students; where the problem has arisen, in my knowledge, is from Hostile Environment bullshit that the Sun has done nothing but help foment.

P.S. Read the lines, Leavers: the Sun is saying immigration from all over the world is both desirable and imminent.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:31 pm
by davidjay
I thought we had open borders?

Re: The Sun

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:23 pm
by Andy McDandy
Non-productive EU nationals could and can be sent home after a few months. Obviously, black economy is a thing, but one has to ask why a Hungarian graduate would up sticks to move to one of the more expensive parts of the continent just to sign on.

It's the old Australian style points system. A talking point or mantra, the chanters of which dont really understand, other than they've been told it's a good thing.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:41 pm
by Bones McCoy
davidjay wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 2:31 pm
I thought we had open borders?
No that's what we're going to have after the no-backstop Brexit (Cos' the Taoiseach is a brown poofter - or whatever hilarious insult they dreamed up this week.)

Re: The Sun

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:46 pm
by Bones McCoy
Andy McDandy wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 4:23 pm
Non-productive EU nationals could and can be sent home after a few months. Obviously, black economy is a thing, but one has to ask why a Hungarian graduate would up sticks to move to one of the more expensive parts of the continent just to sign on.

It's the old Australian style points system. A talking point or mantra, the chanters of which don't really understand, other than they've been told it's a good thing.
I suspect Aussie Points System fans imagine an Australia stuck in the 1950s, with just white people, talking kangaroos, flying doctors, and a few natives confined to the Northern territory.
They'd be shocked, shocked I say, to witness the racial melting pot you'll find in any of the cities.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:06 am
by Andy McDandy
It's part of the Murdoch effect. Australian equates to no messing about, plain speaking, get things done, no pooftahs.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 11:48 am
by davidjay
Bones McCoy wrote:
Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:46 pm

I suspect Aussie Points System fans imagine a Britain stuck in the 1950s, with just white people, only talking English, and a few darkies confined to the North.
They'd be shocked, shocked I say, to witness the racial melting pot you'll find in any of the cities.
Fixed.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 12:01 pm
by Safe_Timber_Man
It's become apparent that The Sun now rarely use the phrase "No Deal Brexit" and have instead adopted "Clean Break Brexit". I guess they feel this is some sort of re-branding to make it seem less toxic.


THE SUN SAYS Boris Bounce proves faith in politics that left Queen ‘dismayed’ is restored

IN Boris you trust, it seems.

The new Prime Minister is helping to restore your faith in democracy.

It’s quite a turnaround, since even the Queen is reported to have been “dismayed” by British politicians’ “inability to govern” as the Brexit debate has dragged on for three years.

Now, at last, Sun readers are seeing a glimmer of hope that the deadlock can be broken by Team Boris.

Support for the Conservatives among Sun readers has more than doubled since Mr Johnson became PM, according to a new poll (though we’re not suggesting Her Majesty was among those surveyed).

The “Boris Bounce” has seen the number of you planning to vote Tory leap from just 13 per cent in June to nearly one in three (31 per cent).

Many who previously expressed support for Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party now believe the PM can deliver the escape from the EU the country voted for.

Hypocritical Remoaners are still intent on thwarting the will of the people by any means they can while accusing Boris of being undemocratic.

Respected think-tank the Institute For Government says they have already run out of time to block a clean-break Brexit. And we should all rejoice in that.













Trevor Kavanagh doubles down on the fake news story The Sun ran about the Queen backing Brexit. He says it would be wrong to put words in the Queens mouth before promptly putting words in the Queens mouth:

The Queen was watching all this like the rest of us. She cannot speak for herself and it would be wrong to put words in her mouth.

But it is worth recalling The Sun’s well-sourced and subsequently confirmed exclusive under this hotly disputed headline, “Queen Backs Brexit”.

This was not just a true story, it was a no-brainer, the authentic response of a British sovereign who has seen this sovereignty steadily leached away to a land trying to call itself “Europe”.



TREVOR KAVANAGH The Queen can’t say, but I suspect Boris Johnson is up for a Royal Warrant of approval

“WHAT a bloomin’ shower,” storms Monarch. “Today’s politicians are useless,” Queen tells aides. Shock! Horror!

Not for the first time, and without saying a word in public, Her Majesty the Queen is speaking for the nation.

The dismal decline in our political class did not begin with Brexit in 2016. It started years earlier, as successive governments caved in to easy options and the abdication of leadership.
Soft on crime, soft on the causes of crime. Open doors to mass immigration. Let kids rule in the classroom. Human rights, not human responsibilities.

For millions of voters, the fault line ran from Westminster to Brussels, with the relentless surrender of power by our elected MPs to the faceless commissars of the European Union.

The Queen was watching all this like the rest of us. She cannot speak for herself and it would be wrong to put words in her mouth.

But it is worth recalling The Sun’s well-sourced and subsequently confirmed exclusive under this hotly disputed headline, “Queen Backs Brexit”.

This was not just a true story, it was a no-brainer, the authentic response of a British sovereign who has seen this sovereignty steadily leached away to a land trying to call itself “Europe”.

Her Majesty was also appalled when our so-called leaders, the morally superior metropolitan elite, were caught short by the 2008 financial crash.

“Did nobody see it coming?” wondered this shrewd woman who, after 67 years as QE2, has seen it all.

The Queen has her own way of expressing a view. Last year she ditched the BBC — after a film was edited to make her look grumpy — and delivered her Christmas message on ITV.

She urged people with “deeply held differences” to respect each other’s views.

The BBC and others pounced on this as a rebuke to Brexiteers but her remarks applied equally to rancorous Remainers.

A skilled mimic who enjoys lampooning politicians, the Queen will have her own views on the individuals who have kissed hands at the Palace.

David Cameron is unlikely to rate highly after abandoning a rudderless nation at a moment of crisis.

Indeed, this was the moment she voiced alarm at modern politicians’ “inability to govern”.

Despite their shared Christian faith, Her Majesty probably understands public dismay over Theresa May’s shocking failure to get a grip. As for her view of Jezza and his Marxist mates, the mind boggles.

So if we join the dots, can we guess what the Monarch makes of Boris Johnson?

The jury is out, of course, but I suspect he might already be up for a Royal Warrant of approval.

It is likely the Queen was against a referendum. But once the people had spoken, she would surely expect to see their verdict upheld.

She must be appalled by the way this civil war has split her nation asunder and will want Brexit sorted ASAP.

On that assumption, I would guess she and Prince Philip — “my strength and my stay” — are impressed by the way Downing Street is finally buckling down.

There will be a warm welcome at the Palace for the crackdown on crime — especially the knife bloodbath destroying the lives of her young subjects.

I may be assuming too much, but it is hard to imagine she has serious objections to the spending on prisons, police and the NHS.

As for the most toxic issue of all, the Queen will be adamantly opposed to any border down the Irish Sea separating Northern Ireland from the rest of her United Kingdom.

Witnessing the Privy Council in action, Her Majesty might agree with the opinion expressed by one of her ministers that too many modern politicians are “spineless”.

Re: The Sun

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:04 pm
by Safe_Timber_Man
Brexit is wonderful. Project Fear. Climate Change Extremists and Evil Social Media.



THE SUN SAYS Britain’s economy is sound — don’t let the Project Fear merchants get you down

THE professional doom-mongers snorted when the Chancellor last week said the fundamentals of the British economy were sound.

But with pay rises at an 11-year high and employment the highest since 1971, it’s hard to disagree with him.

While Westminster watchers work themselves into a frenzy over Brexit, ordinary businesses up and down the country are getting on with it, and families are feeling the benefit.

Brits took on a real burden during the lean years of necessary austerity, as the Government worked to get the country’s finances in shape after ruinous Labour over-spending.

So the people deserve a pay rise but there is still much to do. Productivity is still lower than many of our competitors.

The high street still needs support and it’s hard to argue with those who think the time has come for real reform of business rates.

But in the meantime, don’t let the Project Fear merchants get you down.





Special deal

THE US national security adviser John Bolton is a friend of Britain.

His commitment to working with the Government on flexible, ever-growing trade deals is a marked contrast to the hardline approach taken by the EU over the past three years.

He recognises that good deals can benefit both sides, reinvigorating our vital Special Relationship and our economies, too. PM Boris Johnson’s relationship with President Trump is a strength, not a weakness.

The American administration is also enthusiastic about a No Deal Brexit, confident that Britain will thrive even if we have a clean break.

If only some of our politicians had such belief.










Eco-unfriendly

GEORGE Freeman is an asset to the Tory party.

But the Transport Minister is mad to welcome eco-loons Extinction Rebellion to his “Big Tent” ideas festival.

These people would happily crash the economy in pursuit of their ideological aims. Sun readers are doing their green bit and are more than aware of the changing climate.

But no sensible tent, no matter how big, has space for these extremists.









Anti-social

IT’S clear that social media is having an impact on our kids’ mental health.

The smartphone revolution is one giant experiment and today’s children are the guinea pigs.

Parents, schools and the Government need to think about how to respond.