[davidjay]

The thing is Geoffrey Clark is no outrider within UKIP in terms of being a batshit, vindictive, dim, and nasty cocksocket. There are many, many, more - quite a few of them candidates.

How Emmett thinks that his party can establish credibility with wingnuts like this on board is simply beyond me.

Takes one to know one?

[youngian]

Bloggers4UKIP

This is a corking link-
http://www.bloggers4ukip.org.uk/2012/12 ... cials.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Obama says UK in the EU is in American national interest
Barack Obama and American officials have warned that the UK remaining in the EU is in America's national interest and that if we leave we would be seen as weaker.

The UK outside of the EU would be a significant challenger to the US, particularly with the Commonwealth Free Trade Area that UKIP proposes.

The EU without the UK bailing it out would be much poorer and unable to buy as much American tat and don't forget that this is a socialist president supporting the socialist EU empire.

[Tubby Isaacs]

This is very good. The title actually makes sense when you read the article:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree ... servatives" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ukip are true libertarians

Because:

Some argue, given the apparent conflict, that Ukip aren't libertarian at all. But this is to misunderstand libertarianism. In reality there's no conflict. As paradoxical as it may seem, rightwing libertarianism has always been a deeply authoritarian political philosophy. It claims to value liberty in some general and all-encompassing sense above all other principles, but the particular types of freedom libertarianism seeks to defend and extend are always, tacitly and implicitly, forms of liberty for the few at the expense of the many. Thus libertarianism stands for the unfreedom of the majority.

[new puritan]

I forget who originally said it, but there was one quote which I thought summed up right-libertarianism perfectly - 'everything is allowed, but nothing is possible'. It's a totally pointless school of thought.

edit: it was this geezer.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Wonder if Raab and Hannan have considered these points.

Raab idiotically was citing Mr Sinners-into-Winners, a preacher with loud hailer who seemed to be constantly at Oxford Circus, as a victim of this police state. He got an ASBO, so merely had to give people a break, he could preach elsewhere, even with his megaphone, I think. Seemed fair enough to me.

It didn't cross Raab's mind that people working there had to listen to him every day. Because he and his mates live in big houses out of town, and work in sound proofed offices.

Can't recall Raab or Fargle complaining about police brutality v students.

[Kreuzberger]

Can't recall Raab or Fargle complaining about police brutality v students.

This could quite easily be on the Man Overboard thread too. Since the Year Dot, the right has seen the police as their own paramilitary wing and it never occurred to them that they too might be on the wrong end of mistakes or misconduct. Basically, they don't like it up 'em.

I woke this morning to the blustering sound of an interviewee on the wireless proclaiming that the press and the police have been in cahoots for far too long and that there should be a wide-ranging inquiry to get to the bottom of all this. I went back to sleep safe in the knowledge that neither the world nor irony have come to an end.

[Paul]

So, Mr Farage, why does UKIP's leader have a German wife? ...and did she make you kip in the spare room over that 'seven-times-a night fling' with a Latvian?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2GTF0i7lk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Big Arnold]

UKIP's votes were hugely boosted by the story of a UKIP-voting Rotherham family whose three Slovakian foster children were removed because of the couple's political beliefs.

No they weren't.

[Paul]

A lie becomes the truth if you tell it often enough.

[Abernathy]

Seven times a night? And he's only got one ball? Pull the other one. Oh hang on, there is no other one.

[oboogie]

What is it with these racists and uni-gonadism?

Actually, that raises an interesting* cause and effect question...does a deficiency in the trouser department lead to racist thoughts? Or is self-mutilation part of some kind of initiation ceremony when joining a gang of far-right loonies?

*interesting only to myself, I'm sure.

[shyamz]

Even voluntary abortions can be traumatic. Has he even considered the effect on the woman of a compulsory one? Or on the medical staff who terminated the pregnancy? Assuming you could find anyone prepared to do it.

They want to be able to force doctors to have control over life, whilst been against doctors having the right to assist death. You can't have it both ways, but they want to.

[Big Arnold]

'UKIP could form 2015 coalition government': Nigel Farage makes extraordinary boast as war of words with Tories rages

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2HHsYeCdg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[spoonman]

'UKIP could form 2015 coalition government': Nigel Farage makes extraordinary boast as war of words with Tories rages

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2HHsYeCdg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pretty extraordinary considering they don't even have one MP right now!
Besides, if he's taking on the Conservatives in a "war of words", who does he think UKIP should form a coalition with? Labour? At least the Lib Dems know how to do diplomacy.

[youngian]

So, Mr Farage, why does UKIP's leader have a German wife? ...and did she make you kip in the spare room over that 'seven-times-a night fling' with a Latvian?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2GTF0i7lk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I once read that the creators of Minder were originally going to offer the Arthur Daley role to Denholm Elliot. This always comes to mind when I see Farage.