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By Andy McDandy
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There's a certain type of poverty that requires quite a lot of money to indulge.

For instance, very few actual working class people dress like SWP activists.
 
By Abernathy
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cycloon wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:52 pm
He's right, in a sense.
He's also wrong to frame it as 'constitutional vs real'.
Well, he's right that climate change and poverty are ultimately far bigger issues than Brexit, but surely even Corbyn isn't so stupid as to fail to see that if Brexit goes ahead it makes combatting poverty exponentially more difficult, and tackling climate change more difficult than it would be if we were still able to act internationally as part of the EU. In fact, the treaty of Lisbon makes explicit provision for both.

He mustn't be let off the hook on this. Brexit is far more than simply "a constitutional issue" , and is unquestionably the number one priority for Labour to deal with right now.

If he helps deliver Brexit, he risks reducing Labour's chances of returning to government even more than he has diminished them already.

Genuinely angry of the sheer fuck-witted stubborn idiocy of this. It's as if he has asked Seumas to write him a speech that will piss off as many people as possible.
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By youngian
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Boiler wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 12:00 pm
Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:35 am
Yup, the aristo-Trots are getting their way.
It is strange how people with money and/or well-paid jobs are so supportive of this brand of Socialism, isn't it?

p.s. Nicking "Aristo-Trots".


Milne and Murray are aristo-Stalinists. The Trots in Momentum are very vocal about supporting free movement and are suspected as counter-revolutionaries in bed with the Blairite traitors.
 
By Tubby Isaacs
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Not easy, but I think this would be the right call.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... oples-vote
Call for Corbyn to sack MPs who do not support people's vote
What good does Melanie Onn think is going to come to Grimsby by leaving the EU anyway? Nobody can believe it's going to get more money for the NHS, lots more fishermen and keep its food processing.
 
By The Weeping Angel
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Fri Mar 08, 2019 4:49 pm
The real issues.
Jeremy Corbyn has said poverty and climate change are far greater priorities for Labour and the country than Brexit.

In advance excerpts of a speech to the Scottish Labour conference, Corbyn said his party was not “obsessed by constitutional questions like the others are. We’re obsessed with tackling the problems people face in their daily lives.”

In what appeared to be a deliberate attempt to shift the focus away from his party’s deep divisions over Brexit, Corbyn said the greatest challenge posed to the UK was global warming.
Save this stuff for when you visit the West Midlands. It doesn't wash in 62% Remain Scotland.
From someone who knows what they're talking about.

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By crabcakes_windermere
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May was all but dead after the vote. Then Corbyn delivers a dull, shit speech and doesn’t mention a second referendum at all, just his Norway+ bollocks again.

You could pull out the throne for him and lower him all the way on to it bar the very last mm, and he’d still find a way to end up sprawled on the floor. The man is useless.
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