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#575255
Why is this a one lever system in your mind? Moreover why does the performance of the lib dems absolve The Independent Group for Change of their persistent failure? Of their ongoing incompetence?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... your-hands

Piece in the graun by Owen Jones about the The Independent Group for Change
#575273
Winegums wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 11:11 am
Why is this a one lever system in your mind? Moreover why does the performance of the lib dems absolve Change UK (The Independent Group) of their persistent failure? Of their ongoing incompetence?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... your-hands

Piece in the graun by Owen Jones about the The Independent Group for Change
No the question I asked is why are the centrist Lib Dems doing so well if centrist politics dead. Nothing to do with the tigs / tinges / cuks / Change UK.
If Corbyn is such a master political genius, why have the Lib Dem gone from 4th or 5th place to 2nd? Surely Labour should be picking up all the non brexit votes.
#575298
randomelement wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 12:57 pm
Winegums wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 11:11 am
Why is this a one lever system in your mind? Moreover why does the performance of the lib dems absolve Change UK (The Independent Group) of their persistent failure? Of their ongoing incompetence?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... your-hands

Piece in the graun by Owen Jones about the Change UK (The Independent Group)
No the question I asked is why are the centrist Lib Dems doing so well if centrist politics dead. Nothing to do with the tigs / tinges / cuks / Change UK.
If Corbyn is such a master political genius, why have the Lib Dem gone from 4th or 5th place to 2nd? Surely Labour should be picking up all the non brexit votes.
EU elections are, and have always been, very different from national elections. Much like council elections where local issues play a huge part, the EU elections are often a protest vote. See: UKIP constantly doing very well despite having 0 MPs.

The better question is "Why have The Independent Group for Change done so badly despite campaigning as LD minus the baggage?".
#575302
I think the best bet for them now is to withdraw all candidates and tell people to support the Lib Dems or Greens. They’ve fluffed their launch and been too slow to get going, and would only get a token one or two MEPs tops on most projections. all taking percentage points off of other remain groups will do is make people resentful and maybe even allow Farage a few more MEPs. Doing something genuinely different and non-tribal would earn them a lot of goodwill and then there’s a decent gap until a GE to get their act together, assuming they decide to go on.
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#575308
randomelement wrote:
Sun May 19, 2019 7:14 pm
Nope. If it's a protest vote, why are people feeling the need to protest against Labour in such large numbers?
Diehard remainers (the antonym of those who are voting Brexit party), and as I said, there just isn't the same turnout (or type of turnout) as their is for a GE or a council election.
#575595
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Small but significant mistake in the CringeUK adverts there "...remain in the UK". Their one policy and they can't even get it right. Utterly incompetent.
#575633
Person on internet makes spelling mistake. Is criticised by someone who can't even spell "Change" properly.
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