- Sat May 18, 2019 2:48 pm #575229
Good article on Bolton in the Guardian - was going to leave in the Wotsit Hitler thread.
The Red Arrow is currently appearing in 'Melons Galore!' at the City Varieties Music Hall, Leeds.
Regarding Iran, the thing to watch will be the Tory leadership hopefuls.crabcakes_windermere wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 4:01 pmBolton fucking terrifies me because he just wants a fight. He’s a thug who now has the ear of a dimwitted bully who wants to make history.
I’m sure Corbyn will be against any Iran adventure, and rightly so (with the caveat he’d be against it regardless of circumstances because that’s just his automatic position). But that - and what Blair did in Iraq - don’t mean I’ll vote Labour in the Euro elections because Labour’s stance on Brexit will harm this country, Europe and our relations with the world for generations and hand a win to people like Putin and Farage.
None of these positions are mutually exclusive.
Senior Labour figures were engaged in a desperate battle to shore up the party’s support on Saturday night, amid warnings that its stance on Brexit was helping to “detoxify the Lib Dems”.
With just days left before the European elections at which Nigel Farage’s Brexit party is expected to triumph, shadow cabinet ministers are among those concerned that Labour’s ambiguous position on Brexit has helped revive the Lib Dems. It comes as new polling seen by the Observer suggests Vince Cable’s party is running in first place in London and could even beat Labour overall.
One senior party figure warned: “If the consequence of Labour’s Brexit position and this European election is to essentially detoxify the Lib Dems, then that’s a real problem.” Clive Lewis, a shadow Treasury minister, said “lifelong Labour voters” would not back the party this week due to its Brexit stance. He added: “It feels like we’ve given [the Lib Dems] the political equivalent of resuscitation.”
A Lib Dem spokesman said the parties understood "the need for a collective effort in securing a People's Vote and stopping Brexit" but moves to back an independent candidate had not been successful.
The candidate they had planned to back, Femi Oluwole, told the BBC he had pulled out over concerns his candidacy would hand victory to the Brexit Party and ultimately harm the campaign for another referendum.
We’re not defining people by 2016...but we are saying the 2016 result is fixed in stone despite all the corruption and the change in heart of the public every poll shows. Oh, and if you vote for us we’ll count it as endorsement of our plan to leave.Boiler wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 11:33 amMeanwhile, the do-nothing fence sitter spekes his bRanes.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -remainers
Looking forward to hearing Corbyn trying to perform the mental somersaults when us doing Brexit means we have to cling to the US, which will include invading Iran because we won't have a choice.
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