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#581119
A Corbynite dies and goes to heaven, where God says to him: “I will return you to life if you tell the world antisemitism in the Labour Party is a real urgent problem which must be dealt with immediately."

Returning to Earth excited he attends at Momentum meeting. "Guys! Guys! You won't BELIEVE how high the anti-Corbyn conspiracy goes!"
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#581144
crabcakes_windermere wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:52 am
But what are you worried about? If it’s 15,000 screenshots of someone’s cat, and the complaints are just snowflakes stirring up shit for Corbyn it’ll be fine.

Of course, you're right, the issue will be put to bed and a sincere apology issued by all parties who hyped this up. We live in a safe society with a responsible press.
#581145
Winegums wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:14 pm
Of course, you're right, the issue will be put to bed and a sincere apology issued by all parties who hyped this up.
So instead you continue to support corbyn not investigating the claims?You want him to look like he's got something to hide? Do you want to explain the logic behind that?
#581149
crabcakes_windermere wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 7:52 am

https://twitter.com/gnasherjew?lang=en

Here’s a good one with specific, screenshot examples:

Fucking dire examples. Genuinely shit.

Case 1 links to the wrong story. It links to a mail article where the party policy ("don't leak investigations to the press") is treated like some sort of gagging clause rather than the same basic standards every organisation holds its staff to. No idea what the actual meat of the story was meant to be so can't comment.

Case 2 (Pam Bromley) seems to be that she's complaining about the whole AS bullshit rather than doing any AS. She quotes a post referencing the JIDF, a real organisation that the Israeli government doesn't pretend to hide. Again, Israel isn't all of Judaism and critics of Israeli foreign policy or attempts to influence public opinion do not necessarily mean someone is antisemitic.

Ash Small seems to genuinely, sincerely, be asking about the numbers relating to the holocaust. To the point where he says "I'm not denying them, I just want them explained". Obviously if there's more to that FB thread that's another thing, unless you genuinely believe nobody can ask any questions about the Holocaust without it making them anti-semitic (which is a really dodgy route to go down).

Everything Michelle Harris posted in those pictures is anti-Israel not anti-semitic. Real efforts made by some people to conflate being pro-Palestine and raising awareness of the apartheid state of Israel, with being anti-semitic. Her further comments about Israel all seem..right? Genuinely if you think she's been anti-semitic, explain why.

Patricia Sheerin Richman weird vibes, probably AS. Good catch but that's like 1 for 5.
#581151
lord_kobel wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:19 pm
Winegums wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:14 pm
Of course, you're right, the issue will be put to bed and a sincere apology issued by all parties who hyped this up.
So instead you continue to support corbyn not investigating the claims?You want him to look like he's got something to hide? Do you want to explain the logic behind that?
There's no right way out of this. None. The press are arguing in bad faith and you can't win an argument against people arguing in bad faith. If the party clear the deck of investigations and find insufficient people guilty, it's a whitewash. If they find lots of people guilty it's evidence of AS.
#581152
You really don't get it, do you?

It's not about the optics, it's about the central, core beliefs of the Labour Party, its soul, its promise to all people, especially the downtrodden and oppressed. The vital support of a political party for those who do not have the clout to manipulate society to their benefit.

Corbyn has pissed that up the wall, and you (and all the other clingons) don't get it and you don't care.

You ain't no socialist, bruv.
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#581153
The fuck are you wittering on about? How does someone who still shills for Blair have the nerve to talk about the downtrodden? Don't try to take the high ground when your political hero does PR for dictators.
#581158
Winegums wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:46 pm
The fuck are you wittering on about?
It's not hard. You're telling the labour party not to stand up against anti-semitism. That means you're not a socialist, which, given your use of alt-right buzzwords, doesn't suprise me.

Winegums wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:46 pm
How does someone who still shills for Blair have the nerve to talk about the downtrodden? Don't try to take the high ground when your political hero does PR for dictators.
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#581172
Winegums wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:36 pm
There's no right way out of this.
This is the kind of logic which leads to the hard right coup d'etat of a No Deal Brexit. "It's too difficult to resolve, therefore we'll not bother and just let shit happen and if it all goes wrong we'll just blame everyone but us."
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