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#583734
Do the "damage to democracy" denizens also acknowledge Russian interference in Western elections for some time now?
#583743
Oblomov wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:56 pm
Do the "damage to democracy" denizens also acknowledge Russian interference in Western elections for some time now?
Fake news - the two most damaging words in recent political history.
#583758
Oblomov wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:56 pm
Do the "damage to democracy" denizens also acknowledge Russian interference in Western elections for some time now?
There's a pretty gross connection between Brexiteers and fans of Putin, Orban, China et al. They weep pure tears for the gilets jaunes, but haven't heard them saying a peep about Moscow or Hong Kong. Democracy means something for them, something introverted, uncompromising and rooted in key groups, not as a system for all.
#583761
Said groups are rarely, if ever, much divergent from base racism and old fashioned national stereotypes.

They'll all cheerfully tell you how the Chinese and Eastern European types don't really want democracy, they need a Strongman in charge, and the protests are just fluff and leftie agitators. The French, of course, have a fine tradition of protest and rebellion etc....

Said sage advice will generally be dispensed over the rim of a glass, usually after an opening gambit that you're "not allowed to say this sort of thing, but it's true..."
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#583764
The Hong Kongers appear to know the difference between civil liberties and the tyranny of the majority. The Tories will remove the ECHR/HRA from English law soon and it will be portrayed as the will of the people taking back control.
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#583771
youngian wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:23 am
The Hong Kongers appear to know the difference between civil liberties and the tyranny of the majority. The Tories will remove the ECHR/HRA from English law soon and it will be portrayed as the will of the people taking back control.
And with that comes "we're sending the darkies home because it's the will of the people", along with "we're bringing back hanging because it's the will of the people"...
#583926
Here's a Brexit story even Jez could get some traction out of; Turkish army buys Scunthorpe. Why would a pension fund buy an insolvent steel plant?
Turkish army pension fund to buy British Steel
Turkey's military pension fund has reached a tentative deal to buy British Steel out of insolvency.

The Turkish Armed Forces Assistance Fund (known as Oyak) says it plans to take over British Steel, which employs 5,000 people, by the end of the year.

British Steel owns the Scunthorpe steel works where 3,000 people work and it employs another 800 on Teesside.

But the firm was put into compulsory liquidation in May after rescue talks with the government broke down.

Another 20,000 jobs in the supply chain were put at risk by the collapse of the talks between the government and British Steel's owner, Greybull, prompting a parliamentary inquiry. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49368217
#583933
To diminish the significance of Peterloo is to highlight a fundamental chasm in one's understanding. At the very worst, Corbyn is having a stopped clock moment.
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