[bluebellnutter]

[crabcakes_windermere]

What’s that about the revolution, eating and children again?

I mean, I assume it’s a hit piece, but it just makes me rate the guy more highly for being willing to work with people he has differences with for the greater good to sideline fucking liabilities.

[The Weeping Angel]

Karie Murphy is a vile nasty piece of work she is a bully who is pure poison so getting she sidelined and removed is a good thing in my book.

[youngian]

I understand McDonnell is a neoliberal Blairite traitor for chatting with Alistair Campbell or something.

[The Weeping Angel]

It surely can't be a coincidence that the MPs to be triggered are all women or BAME.

https://labourlist.org/2019/10/kate-osa ... ggered-mp/

Kate Osamor has become the latest Labour MP to be ‘triggered’ by party members, after branches in Edmonton Labour voted against automatic reselection of their current representative and in favour of holding a full selection contest.

The MP for Edmonton, who is largely considered to be on the left of the party and supportive of the leadership though also a vocal anti-Brexit campaigner, will be a candidate in the ensuing selection contest with an all-women shortlist.

As in South Shields, where Emma Lewell-Buck is set to face a full selection process, the divisions in Edmonton cannot be accurately described as running along traditional factional lines. Instead, it is widely agreed that the result is attributable to specific local dynamics.

[youngian]

The sort of people who think they can do a better job than the sitting MP despite no evidence to back their beliefs are generally ageing white males. In their minds that’s qualification enough to challenge a black woman.

Daniel Zeichner in Cambridge is facing a trigger ballot with zero out of six branches so far voting for a challenge. One branch out of 14 is expected to vote for deselection.

[crabcakes_windermere]

Blimey. Even Long-Bailey is now referendum before election. Corbyn is getting very isolated...

[Abernathy]

It surely can't be a coincidence that the MPs to be triggered are all women or BAME.

Also not true. Every sitting Labour MP faces a trigger ballot before each election, male or female, black or white. This is just the usual practice. It's not the mandatory open selections that Momentum wants.

You need to be careful about implying motivations of racism or gender prejudice where none exist.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Long-Bailey realizes that a Brexit election is going to be a Jez election too. In a bad way.

[visage]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 53561.html

This would be spectacular. Not only would JC end up sending the party out of business, but the NEC aka the JC9, would end up potentially personally liable for the damages.....

[crabcakes_windermere]

The fears are fuelled by the party’s worsening finances. Figures revealed this week showed that Labour made a loss of £655,000 last year, compared to a profit of £1.45m the year before, as a result of a fall in membership, rising staffing costs and losses incurred by last summer’s Labour Live event.

So Labour being in debt can be directly tied to (a) Corbyn letting down all those record numbers of members who joined thinking he wouldn’t just be an arrogant, inflexible bigot enabler, (b) the nepotism where his mates and their relatives get cushy jobs they are unqualified for, and (c) his need for an annual ego-striking session where he preaches to a crowd of the faithful.

And of course, if he wasn’t going out of his way to avoid doing much about Williamson and the like, there’d be no risk of lawsuits either.

[The Weeping Angel]

So all this talk of greater party democracy was just a load of old flannel.

https://labourlist.org/2019/10/stop-the ... elections/

Labour’s national executive committee (NEC) has drawn up longlists for parliamentary selections taking place across the country – and many local members in those seats are not happy. Complaints have been raised in almost every local party that will soon be picking a candidate, and there have been widespread grievances raised about “stitch ups”.

On Monday, LabourList reported on concerns among members in: Ealing North, where local councillors Lewis Cox, Bassam Mahfouz and Chris Summers were left off the longlist; Liverpool West Derby, where councillor Nick Crofts who had strong union backing was excluded; and Poplar and Limehouse, where councillor Rachel Blake was cut out apparently to favour Momentum’s Apsana Begum.

[youngian]

The fears are fuelled by the party’s worsening finances. Figures revealed this week showed that Labour made a loss of £655,000 last year, compared to a profit of £1.45m the year before, as a result of a fall in membership, rising staffing costs and losses incurred by last summer’s Labour Live event.

So Labour being in debt can be directly tied to (a) Corbyn letting down all those record numbers of members who joined thinking he wouldn’t just be an arrogant, inflexible bigot enabler, (b) the nepotism where his mates and their relatives get cushy jobs they are unqualified for, and (c) his need for an annual ego-striking session where he preaches to a crowd of the faithful.

Who's surprised Jez's appointees pissed away the coffers? They make it so easy for the Tories; 'Corbyn can't even manage his own party in profit. Do you want him looking after your money?' Very effective because voters know its true. Len has the Unite piggy bank to bail Corbyn out. Like King Ludwig of Bavaria who bankrupted the state to feed his infatuation with Wagner and his operas.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Is that entirely fair? There's a big net surplus over those 2 years combined, with money being spent as, in practice, a "long" general election campaign. Not to say that the money has been well-spent or anything- there was a popular movement doing lots of campaigning helpful to Labour for free. but Labour failed to leverage it.

As a wise man on here said a while ago, Labour looks like being the new Natural Law Party- lots of money to spend, but not enough buying the product.

[Arrowhead]

This pledge from Starmer, plus the commitment to a People's Vote, is good to see from Labour. If only they'd followed this path from the very beginning, rather than allowing the likes of McCluskey, Milne and Gardiner to pour cold water over everything for the past three years, then they might have avoided seeing their voter coalition split in half back in the Spring.