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#588154
Boiler wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:53 am
spoonman wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:26 am
The DUP won't announce a final decision on WA 2.0 until they listen to feedback from the UDA. An awkward truth.
Seriously? :shock:
Most definitely. Previous talks about getting the Stormont Assembly back up and running essentially failed after UDA representatives whom met the DUP told them that they didn't find the conditions acceptable, along with the Orange Order.

MM has mentioned some stuff, but it is quite possible that the fate of this new agreement could be decided by a bunch of Belfast based drug dealers, racketeers and extortionists. But hey, Corbyn and the IRA and all that.
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#588157
As several others have said, it may well be the case that what JCJ meant was "We've got a deal, there shouldn't be a need for any more extensions", and furthermore it's up to the other 27 to decide if there is a further extension.

That said, it feels like things are coming to a head this weekend. I suspect if next week Johnson or whoever goes back with the issue of a confirmatory referendum, they'll agree to it on the strict understanding that it realise is the last time.
#588163
Lots of those 24 independents for the deal will be the ex-Tories. Who are the others? Ian Austin and Frank Field, probably. Stephen Lloyd, the ex-Lib Dem. Is Lady Hermon one of them? She voted for May's deal, but the DUP will gobble her up if she votes for this. Actually 24 doesn't sound like a bad guess.
#588203
Driving home last night I listened to The World Tonight and an interview with the Latvian Prime Minister, Arturs Krišjānis Kariņš.

He spoke much better English than Johnson does - a fluid and fluent delivery with none of that stupid, staccato delivery that characterises Johnson.
#588237
Not going to shift the Labour goons. Like John Mann, they can hide behind "Parliament" will decide.

I reckon it's lost. Owen Paterson might vote against on Unionist grounds, but the other ERG are coming in behind it. The whipless 21 (apart from Greening, Bebb and Grieve) will back it.
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