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By The Red Arrow
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Yeah, the wording and the speed that it was taken down certainly lent itself to interpretation. I really should pay more attention to the Jam's* 'News of the World' currently giving my speakers a workout and 'check before I spread'.






*A popular three piece beat combo from the late seventies, M'Lud - owing much of their early repertoire to the canon of popular beat combos of the sixties. The group's lead singer-guitarist has become somewhat revered as a solo artiste and influencer of musical taste and direction, although - in my humble opinion - he never matched the spark and energy attained with his erstwhile bandmates.
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By Boiler
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Have just been reading another forum. Much whining by a lesser Rees-Mogg on there about how much he dislikes the current direction of travel of the Tories, but he admits to having voted for them anyway in his postal ballot because Socialism.
 
By Andy McDandy
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If that's true, hmm.

There was a thread on Twitter today by someone who knows a bit about polling, who suggests that the samples many polling companies are using don't take into account first time voters, and are still working on 2017 assumptions. Long story short, he predicts a hung parliament.
 
By Boiler
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'Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the nation,
There was misery, poverty and great deprivation
Some stockings were empty, some fridges were bare,
The heating turned off; little money to spare.

Boris Johnson was cosy, a-quaffing champagne
Cognac and Port, so he’s feeling no pain,
Stuffing his chops on goose flesh and gammon,
Caviar, Stilton and the finest smoked salmon.

The homeless are shivering in cardboard containers
Ex-Servicemen, youngsters, both Leave and Remainers
The nurses and doctors all still searching for beds
With a shortage of staff, of money and meds

The Moggs singing carols with moguls and bankers,
Hedge funders, financiers and various wankers
Admiring his baubles and pulling his crackers,
Rejoicing that he's got us all by the knackers.

Your Gran's in the corridor, still on the trolley
While the Chancellor's counting the last of his lolly
And Grandad’s in pieces, stemming his tears
Though they’ve paid their dues these past sixty years.

But hey, Gove's on the sherry and is quite off his tits
While his missus is battered and doing the splits
And Drunken Smith is a singing along with the Pogues
With the rest of the mob and a few Russian rogues

And the kids who are dreaming of gifts in the morning
Won’t get them- their benefits were stopped without warning
While those whose dosh is in off-shore accounts
Will be rubbing their hands as the grand total mounts

And the Waspi woman alone in her kitchen
Has long given up on Dancer and Blitzen
She was robbed of her pension, they don’t give a shite
That she’s freezing and hungry on Christmas Eve night

And now, here’s the end of my last festive story


(h/t Red Robin)
By mattomac
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bluebellnutter wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:32 pm
Don't know how much we can read into this, but it's interesting

That is interesting, either they are really lost with their data or there is suggestions it won’t be the great majority some expect. I had noticed it seemed to be places were the Tory incumbents were for instance his trip to Cornwall a week or so back.

He is also polling the same as May was, the only differences are Labour is down and Lib Dem up. Labour majorities increased so much mind that it takes some seats out even with a swing back.

Throw in the locality differences and an electorate that I’m even hearing isn’t that fussed and it probably is down to GOTV operations.
 
By Tubby Isaacs
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bluebellnutter wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:57 pm


This gives the Tories a majority of two, which is potentially hilarious.
If those were the scores a week ago, then Labour ought to be happy about that. Reckon they have closed a bit. The Lib Dem vote share looks worryingly low in most polls. Could they deliver 23? I reckon they'd be very happy.
 
By spoonman
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bluebellnutter wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 3:57 pm


This gives the Tories a majority of two, which is potentially hilarious.
Would need to factor in the Sinn Fein abstentionists as well as speakers to crunch the final tipping point for a majority, but yes if Johnson ended up with a majority in single figures it'll be feckin' awkward for him, along with the comedic tragedy we've seen the last year or so continue on. More in hope than expectation however.

Edit: Just noticed that the count for DUP + SF + SDLP + UUP only equals 16 when Northern Ireland has 18 seats, and Sylvia Hermon is not standing for reelection in North Down (DUP are favourites to take the seat) - so the 2 for "others" is unknown as to where they indicate whom they might be for.



Footnote - the SDLP are looking likely to regaining two seats (South Belfast & Foyle from DUP & SF respectively), while if such an above scenario was the outcome, soundings from the DUP would seem to indicate that they wouldn't touch Johnson with a 160ft pole whilst wearing a Type 1 hazmat suit.
 
By Arrowhead
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:37 pm
A majority of 2 means his deal passes, doesn't it? The new MPs are going to be loyal to him. All the dissidents have been expelled or walked out.
True, but any majority below 50 or so means the ERG loons effectively hold the balance of power. I fully expect them to return to type following the GE, & to make life as difficult as possible for PM Johnson by trying to force through their cherished No Deal utopia. The likes of Paterson, Francois and Baker haven't come this far just to let some treacherous compromise get in their way, they only agreed to a GE because the polls looked good and they wanted to see Remainers suffer.

And anyway, I suspect the majority will be way higher than just 2.
 
By davidjay
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Arrowhead wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:18 pm
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:37 pm
A majority of 2 means his deal passes, doesn't it? The new MPs are going to be loyal to him. All the dissidents have been expelled or walked out.
True, but any majority below 50 or so means the ERG loons effectively hold the balance of power. I fully expect them to return to type following the GE, & to make life as difficult as possible for PM Johnson by trying to force through their cherished No Deal utopia. The likes of Paterson, Francois and Baker haven't come this far just to let some treacherous compromise get in their way, they only agreed to a GE because the polls looked good and they wanted to see Remainers suffer.

And anyway, I suspect the majority will be way higher than just 2.
Offer me a majority of 20 now and I'd snatch your hand off. This is going to be the most depressing week since 2016.
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By The Red Arrow
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And now we’re all back to talking about unfair media bias instead of Johnson’s sociopathic response to a sick boy on the floor of a hospital.



Edit: As so often the case, a neat summary for those wishing to cut to the chase.

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Monday, 9 December 2019
The Shame Of Laura Kuenssberg
https://zelo-street.blogspot.com/2019/1 ... sberg.html
 
By Kreuzberger
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:27 pm
...Johnson and co are vulnerable on trust.
Yes, but who is going to report that when the wells have been thoroughly poisoned?
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