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#595628
Apart from RBL, Burgon and Butler all the leadership and deputy candidates would be an asset to a shadow cabinet. I’ve yet to see any emerging talent in the cabinet. Probably because only hacks, zealots and mediocre plotters wish to serve under Johnson.
#595645
youngian wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:32 am
Whoever becomes leader, I want them tossed over the side if they don’t bring back tangible results back within two years. The Australian Labor Party doesn’t put up with losers with no self-awareness wasting their time.
I'll drink to that. Neither do the Tories.
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#595673
youngian wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2020 8:36 am
Apart from RBL, Burgon and Butler all the leadership and deputy candidates would be an asset to a shadow cabinet. I’ve yet to see any emerging talent in the cabinet. Probably because only hacks, zealots and mediocre plotters wish to serve under Johnson.
Given the Australian Labour Party's recent history they may not be the best model to follow.
#595675
Fair point. There's a more auspicious example from a bit earlier- was it Bill Hayden? Youngian will know.

Kinnock did some sterling work, but a nifty standing down before the 1992 election in favour of John Smith might have been a good idea. Same with Ed Milliband before 2015, though in fairness each of them was led astray by polling being off. Jez had correct polling but his pals told everyone it was wrong.
#595694
Fair point. There's a more auspicious example from a bit earlier- was it Bill Hayden? Youngian will know.

Kinnock did some sterling work, but a nifty standing down before the 1992 election in favour of John Smith might have been a good idea

That’s what Hayden did shortly before an election when the polls showed Bob Hawke could win for Labor and was convinced he couldn’t. Like Kinnock he’d made progress but not enough. Hawke in turn quit while he was ahead in favour Paul Keating who was better PM than Hawke if you like that sort of thing. Which I do.
#595711
Boiler wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:34 pm
childish, contrarian wank dressed up as pseudo-intellectual alternative thought.
Should have been Corbyn's slogan in 2016 TBH
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#595742
youngian wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2020 9:41 pm
Unison has backed Starmer and he is now through as the first candidate. I can’t remember when I last enjoyed following an election.
I think I'm going to switch to Starmer Phillips has I'm afraid to say been proven to be something of a disapointment and I'm not going to do what the Corbynistas did which is to back my candidate no matter what and overlook any flaws they have.
#595746
Phillips has admitted as much herself, and says she's going to try and be more natural now. Which I suspect means she's going to be more outspoken as she has nothing to lose at this stage, but if that brings some heat on the continuity candidates still trying to suggest nothing went wrong then so much the better.
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