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#612544
Oblomov wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 9:55 pm
Bloke I chat politics with on the semi-regular reckons Corbyn would have stormed to a General Election win if he'd just said what he wanted to say about the EU, the truth that it wasn't some socialist utopia but a neoliberal trading cartel but apparently the Islington Set wouldn't allow that or summat :roll:
Yes, because there were so many people voting Tory just for brexit who really wanted a clapped-out 1970s style EU-loathing socialist, they’d have easily made up for all the votes lost from pesky remainers who held their noses and voted Labour anyway.
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Of course the elephant in the room with the "he'll be a national treasure like Tony Benn" argument is that it's a whole lot easier to be fondly remembered when you've not had the leadership mantle. When you become the leader people tend to remember the crises and the inability to deal with them. In much the same way as Boris Johnson has had his reputation irreparably damaged long term by his actions during this pandemic.
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#612566
crabcakes_windermere wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 11:07 pm
Oblomov wrote:
Sun May 31, 2020 9:55 pm
Bloke I chat politics with on the semi-regular reckons Corbyn would have stormed to a General Election win if he'd just said what he wanted to say about the EU, the truth that it wasn't some socialist utopia but a neoliberal trading cartel but apparently the Islington Set wouldn't allow that or summat :roll:
Yes, because there were so many people voting Tory just for brexit who really wanted a clapped-out 1970s style EU-loathing socialist, they’d have easily made up for all the votes lost from pesky remainers who held their noses and voted Labour anyway.
Yebbut but middle-class liberals pretending to care about multiculturalism here whilst really only caring about the exchange rate for their skiing holiday!
 
By youngian
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The ECHR is fake news and part of the deep state, claims Jeremy Trump. Jez singles out a board member named Isaac as a Tory stooge who can’t be trusted. Also its not fair that fellow great statesman Winston Churchill can get away with being a Jew basher while he can’t.
Jeremy Corbyn questions impartiality of EHRC antisemitism inquiry

Commenting on the EHRC, which is investigating Labour antisemitism allegations under Corbyn's leadership, he said the body was “part of the government machine” whose independence had been “taken away” by the ruling Conservative party.

Asked whether he believed its lack of independence would colour the EHRC's report, Corbyn replied: “Let’s see what happens.”

“I think it's quite significant that the Conservative government has underfunded the Equality and Human Rights Commission… and for some reason, which I don't fully understand… decided to take away its independent status and make it part of the government machine,” Corbyn said.

The letter queried whether the EHRC was too close to the Conservative party, noting that two board members, including the chairman, David Isaac, held positions at a law firm, Pinsent Masons, which has advised the Conservative government.

Corbyn said that tolerance of antisemitism throughout British history was unacceptable, claiming that Winston Churchill, the British prime minister during the second world war, had made antisemitic remarks "all through his life". https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/jere ... partiality
#612661
oboogie wrote:
Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:41 pm
I wonder what Starmer will do about this? A Labour MP is spreading conspiracy theories about the EHRC, which Starmer supports, in order to undermine it's forthcoming report.
The sensible thing would be to give Corbyn precisely no grounds to complain before the report is done, on the basis the report is likely to be considerably more thorough than anything his stooges could produce, and will likely be damning but with evidence to back it up.
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#612676
I wonder how much Corbyn's handlers were in fact reining him in, and now he is unrestrained we are seeing him for true and real. He seems to be morphing into his brother.

And yes, we see what the report says and let him answer it, whilst remaining neutral and disinterested. But not uninterested.
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 4:16 am
I wonder how much Corbyn's handlers were in fact reining him in, and now he is unrestrained we are seeing him for true and real. He seems to be morphing into his brother.
He's just reverting to type in saying whatever cobblers he likes, but still enjoying a level of scrutiny and attention above and beyond what he had pre-leadership when he was busy stocking his closet with skeletons.

Always the same theme though - "It's so unfair".
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#612693
Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:15 am
oboogie wrote:
Tue Jun 02, 2020 8:56 am
"Neutral"? You speak for yourself, I want justice.
In fact, fuck that, I want revenge.
Rope, enough, dangle.
Hush now please, I'm fantasising about piano wire.
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