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By spoonman
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MisterMuncher wrote:
Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:56 pm
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg has died. Empty seat on the supreme court.

This might get interesting.
Unfortunately it is not likely to be in a good way - just watch the permantanned turd try to rush in a new SCOTUS nominee with just over six weeks left until the Presidential election alongside Republican sycophants who were screaming blue murder about nominating as such in an election year four years ago when Obama was in office. If he ends up managing to get one fast tracked in before 3rd November, then goodbye any semblance of objectivity if the presidential election results doesn't deliver an outright Biden win.
 
By Arrowhead
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Malcolm Armsteen wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:30 am
Sad news.

Didn't the Repubs prevent Obama appointing a judge in similar circumstances?
Yes, Antonin Scalia passed away in February 2016 and Mitch McConnell pulled a new rule from his ass stating that the empty seat should only be appointed by the winner of the upcoming November 2016 election. The GOP controlled the Senate at the time and so the new "rule" passed, even though Obama had nominated Merrick Garland by then.

My worry is that this might influence the Senate elections a few weeks from now, quite a few Biden-leaning Republicans might find the prospect of another conservative appointment to the Supreme Court too irresistible to ignore.
 
By Catkins
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Oh no, poor RBG. I was hoping she'd hang on for a few more weeks.

Trump is going to nominate a successor this side of the election, and the Republicans will do all they can to confirm it. Because as we've seen in the UK, laws, rules and conventions are for the suckers on the other side.
 
By crabcakes_windermere
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Not enough time to confirm in the senate now before November, so the key issue is now flipping the senate. If the Dems manage it, and hold the House of Representatives, then whoever they nominate is going nowhere.

The election was important enough already, but this cranks it up even further.
 
By Arrowhead
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crabcakes_windermere wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 4:07 pm
Not enough time to confirm in the senate now before November, so the key issue is now flipping the senate. If the Dems manage it, and hold the House of Representatives, then whoever they nominate is going nowhere.

The election was important enough already, but this cranks it up even further.
As things stand at the moment, the most likely outcome in November is:

White House: Dems
Senate: GOP
Lower house: Dems

Lord only knows where that would leave us? Presumably the Trump pick (somebody predictably awful like Judge Jeanine from Fox News) would be vetoed by Biden, but the McConnell-led Senate would still refuse a Biden nomination as per the 2016 shenanigans :?
 
By Catkins
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but the McConnell-led Senate would still refuse a Biden nomination as per the 2016 shenanigans
Yep, because as well as refusing Merrick Garland a hearing, McConnell also stated that if Clinton won the election he'd refuse to hold confirmation hearings for the entirety of her Presidential term. Keeps the court at 4-4 so in the event of a tied decision, the lower court verdict stands.
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