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By Bones McCoy
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youngian wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:20 pm
Tories now turning their brains to bright ideas to save the Union
So ... social justice warrioring.

Dim Tim needs a holiday.
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By Tubby Isaacs
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Ha ha ha.

Lots of social justice policy is already devolved. A case can certainly be made that the SNP don't use their existing powers. Wouldn't it be a better idea to oppose competently in the Scottish Parliament rather than stick up a UK bureaucracy that takes the heat of the SNP?

What happened to "moving left on economics"?
 
By Samanfur
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The key difference between this and the Tories' usual brand (“We’ve had a situation where children are, have been going hungry under a Labour government for years", anyone?) is that normally, their policies have been hurting those Other people, over there. The old, the disabled, the infirm, the foreigners - the ones either not equipped to defend themselves or just too busy surviving to do it.

This might actually affect people Tory voters know - especially in the former Red Wall - and know well enough that they can't delude themselves that enough of the people affected deserve it.
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By davidjay
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As someone on here said about the presidential election, there comes a time when 'everybody' is doing something, so the effect snowballs. Samanfur is right - it's not just "them" who are affected now, it's potentially "me," but more importantly, those getting behind the campaign can't just be labelled virtue-seeking luvvies anymore.
By satnav
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One of the reasons why the Tories won the last election was because they reached out to supporters of the Brexit Party. Unfortunately they are now paying the price because they now have a number of MPs in their ranks who more aligned with the Brexit party rather than the Tory Party.
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By KevS
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davidjay wrote:
Sun Oct 25, 2020 10:51 pm
As someone on here said about the presidential election, there comes a time when 'everybody' is doing something, so the effect snowballs. Samanfur is right - it's not just "them" who are affected now, it's potentially "me," but more importantly, those getting behind the campaign can't just be labelled virtue-seeking luvvies anymore.
Oh, there's plenty still trying.

Including the "Don't have them if you can't afford them" brigade, who overlook the fact that over the space of eighteen years, it is very possible that life and finances may change.
 
By crabcakes_windermere
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I think there’s another similarity to the US as well - Tory supporters thought Boris would rise to the occasion. Instead, he’s rapidly rebranding himself as a lazy, spiteful bully - and that’s in the eyes of his supporters.

I think they’ve really, really fucked it. And they’re trapped. Starmer saying they’ll bring another vote for school meals before Xmas is just the killer blow - they fold now, or they fold then, or they get to be the Scrooge party that lets kids go hungry over Xmas.

Johnson probably can’t wait to resign now and get on with lining up whoever he wants to shag next.
By satnav
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Before becoming PM Johnson was earning £5000 a week knocking out meaningless drivel once a week for the Daily Telegraph. If he throws in the towel early next year he can go back to earning £5000 a week writing twaddle for the Telegraph plus a big pay day for writing an autobiography.
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