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#468
So after having randomly stumbled across a Wikipedia article on primate cities (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primate_city) , it got me thinking about how ludicrously lopsided funding, infrastructure, business and job opportunities etc. are in the UK. And as a resident of That London, I observe that the sheer concentration of wealth in this region isn't a good thing as it hoovers up all of the resources destined for other areas of the country and it will get to the point where those resources no longer advance what's here, just propping creaky old systems totally overburdened by sheer demand.

Is it possible that Birmingham, Manchester, Leeds, Bristol and so on could be (forgive a patronizing term) uplifted to be on a more equal tack with London? Not to mention the part to play for Wales and Scotland, assuming they stick around.

I imagine this will be a rather "blue sky" thread but it could make for interesting stimulation of the old grey matter.
#481
I lived in London a few years ago, and what struck me about it was the disparity between the money and the image. It cost so much to live there, yet where was the money all going?

My agency had an office on the Strand. It was tiny, poky, blistering hot/freezing cold depending on time of year, and the noise was terrible. My job was with one of the councils as a librarian, and several of the library buildings were in serious states of disrepair. I'd just come from another librarian job in the Welsh valleys, and council buildings there were in better nick.

Aside from the big shopping centres, there was just an air of seediness and cheapness about local high streets and shopping parades. The same hen cabins and "Stath Lets Flats" employment/housing agencies full of wannabe Apprentice contestants in shiny suits. The bars were overpriced and bland. The traffic was awful. Aside from "seeing a show", or having a wider than normal range of restaurants, what was the actual advantage of living there?

And yes, you know the answer - all the money goes into keeping the property market inflated.

I now live in Liverpool, and spend (or spent, pre-Covid) a lot of time on work related things in Manchester and Newcastle. What I see there is, areas of urban blight aside, the same technical innovations you get in London, the same quality of life, the same shows and range of eateries, all for half the price.
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#483
It felt the same when I lived in London for a little while, after graduating.

There's a lot of money put into making the tourist areas and the places where the rich folks live well-resourced and presentable, but if you step even a couple of streets away, it's at least as seedy as any 'left behind' bit of the north.
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#486
If there is a mass exodus by remote working metropolitan white collar workers to the small depopulating towns seeking sane property prices and a better quality of life, how will that be greeted by locals? More money going into the town generated by mainly affluent white English workers should be a win-win.
#487
Samanfur wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:17 am There's a lot of money put into making the tourist areas and the places where the rich folks live well-resourced and presentable, but if you step even a couple of streets away, it's at least as seedy as any 'left behind' bit of the north.
Has anyone who bangs on about the Islington elites actually been to the borough? Its rough even by post-war Jerry built council estate standards.
#488
By elites, they mean clever people who read books and have meetings.

I remember Carole Malone going on about Ol' Jez a few years ago, saying "this might go down well in a leafy Islington village* hall, but those of us in the big cities..." which got me wondering just how stupid she is.

*Yes I know the old saying about London being a load of villages that have grown together, but really...
#489
Youngian wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:35 am
Samanfur wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:17 am There's a lot of money put into making the tourist areas and the places where the rich folks live well-resourced and presentable, but if you step even a couple of streets away, it's at least as seedy as any 'left behind' bit of the north.
Has anyone who bangs on about the Islington elites actually been to the borough? Its rough even by post-war Jerry built council estate standards.
They all live in a bizarro world of their self-made discourse.

London is simultaneously effette, liberal and utterly out-of-touch with the working class, and ridden with crime and awfulness, but that's cos darkies, not cos 'the working class', and proximity to this awfulness doesn't stop the effette being 'out of touch' because reasons. Anyone outside the M25 is a saint, except when a darkie or living anywhere like Oxford (let's ignore Cowley and Blackbird Leys cos darkies and stoodents), but the North is also full of stout yeoman alongside... chancers and whining idiots but also darkies... and anyone who writes this shit lives within the M25.

If anything, they spot all the actual general problems (inequality, centralisation of power, snobbery, lopsided life chances) and come up with the most utterly stupid conclusions to feather their own nests.
#491
The old Schrodinger's Immigrant - simultaneously living in luxury on the dole, while taking your job. Keeping to themselves while after your woman. Unemployed thugs and all over the public services. Childishly thick and dastardly cunning in equal measure.
#498
Youngian wrote: Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:33 am If there is a mass exodus by remote working metropolitan white collar workers to the small depopulating towns seeking sane property prices and a better quality of life, how will that be greeted by locals? More money going into the town generated by mainly affluent white English workers should be a win-win.
I'm actually tempted to put in a request for relocation to one of our northern offices, as my monthly salary would go much further up there for probably no noticeable dup in quality of life. Particularly if most independent venues in London don't survive the pandemic and get gobbled up by developers who can't wait to turn them into luxury flats for overseas investors to buy.
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