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By Bones McCoy
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Youngian wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:01 pm All social democrat parties in Europe have seen their blue collar vote dwindle with deindustrialisation. Labour hold up quite well among people who work in comparison. Including its middle class vote not fragmenting to Green and liberal parties. Probably FPTP to thank for that.
That'll be Labour with upward of half a million members.
Compare with the Conservatives small membership, but plenty of thinktank and donor padding.
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By Tubby Isaacs
#7514
Bones McCoy wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:27 am
Youngian wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:01 pm All social democrat parties in Europe have seen their blue collar vote dwindle with deindustrialisation. Labour hold up quite well among people who work in comparison. Including its middle class vote not fragmenting to Green and liberal parties. Probably FPTP to thank for that.
That'll be Labour with upward of half a million members.
Compare with the Conservatives small membership, but plenty of thinktank and donor padding.
Labour people live in "fashionable towns".

Is High Wycombe fashionable? Never had it down as the Haight-Ashbury myself, but Steve Baker seems worried.
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By Andy McDandy
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Well, I should clarify. It's not just student towns that are "fashionable" in their eyes - it's anywhere that doesn't fall into the core constituencies of the current right:

1. Cosy villages and market towns with a thriving Conservative club, a necessarily discreet gay pub, and lots of bored young people kicking the shit out of anyone a bit different on a Friday night.

2. Urban dumps with a closed bingo club, some anti-gay graffiti, and lots of bored young people kicking the shit out of anyone a bit different on a Friday night.

"Fashionable" thus extends to anywhere a bit Bohemian, studenty, posh, smart, laid back, hippyish, comfortable or busy.
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