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By Crabcakes
#1925
Boiler wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 12:38 pm
A slightly patronising response from you there Crabs, but I still favour science over luck.
Feller, I am a scientist who has been involved in the pandemic response. I know what science is and what you can and can't extrapolate from what you know. People made informed hypotheses about a lot of things in relation to vaccines based on the science of how other vaccines work and what they expected to happen - with the increased gap between doses, with how well they would work at suppressing transmission, how they would hold up against new variants etc. But it's still luck that those hypotheses worked out and/or results were better than expected rather than as expected or (obviously) worse than expected. You can't guarantee results as you never know what seemingly insignificant factor can throw things off, or would have led to a chain of events meaning we'd be at a very different point now. That's the luck element. It doesn't have to be one catastrophic thing, it could just have been a snowball of things being suboptimal.

Apologies if it came over as patronising, though.
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By Boiler
#1930
Crabcakes wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 12:53 pm
Boiler wrote: Fri May 07, 2021 12:38 pm
A slightly patronising response from you there Crabs, but I still favour science over luck.
Feller, I am a scientist who has been involved in the pandemic response. I know what science is and what you can and can't extrapolate from what you know. People made informed hypotheses about a lot of things in relation to vaccines based on the science of how other vaccines work and what they expected to happen - with the increased gap between doses, with how well they would work at suppressing transmission, how they would hold up against new variants etc. But it's still luck that those hypotheses worked out and/or results were better than expected rather than as expected or (obviously) worse than expected. You can't guarantee results as you never know what seemingly insignificant factor can throw things off, or would have led to a chain of events meaning we'd be at a very different point now. That's the luck element. It doesn't have to be one catastrophic thing, it could just have been a snowball of things being suboptimal.

Apologies if it came over as patronising, though.
Apology gladly accepted, Crabs. This must have been a hellish fifteen months for you.
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