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By Oboogie
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Oblomov wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:29 pm
davidjay wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 4:34 pm For such a principled man he doesn't half fudge a reply to some direct questions.
Whilst making out that he's the victim.
His defensiveness about intrusive questions about his mental health* doesn't cover this situation at all. Asking if he's had the jab isn't prying into his health, it's asking if he is going to take sensible precautions to ensure he doesn't get ill.

*I only vaguely remember the story, but I believe there was a suggestion he had Alzheimer's, but it turned out he's just a bit stupid.
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By Crabcakes
#4733
Also, I think it’s worth noting how appallingly selfish and petty this is if true - he was once mocked as potentially being mentally deficient, so now he will not use his influence to reassure and persuade others and potentially save lives on an utterly unrelated matter. By all means, of course keep issue such as if you have a condition or illness to yourself. But this is a public figure participating in a national public health programme - it’s barely anything to do with your private matters.

I really hope he didn’t have the jab and is just making excuses, because if he did have it and this is his legit reason for keeping it under his hat then it is *considerably* worse.
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By Oblomov
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He's got form for not taking COVID seriously, remember the photos of him failing to wear a mask properly and that dinner party which breached the restrictions of the time?

All glossed over by the cultists of course.
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By Oboogie
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Crabcakes wrote: Wed Jun 16, 2021 8:26 am I really hope he didn’t have the jab and is just making excuses, because if he did have it and this is his legit reason for keeping it under his hat then it is *considerably* worse.
I hadn't considered the possibility he might have had it but you might be right. It would sit badly with his homeopathic medicine friends and relations.

Also the vaccines are produced by Big Pharma which, as any enthusiastic anti-Semite knows, is run and controlled by Jews.

They want to infect us with Zionism!!

https://atlantajewishtimes.timesofisrae ... ish-links/

https://www.jewishpresspinellas.com/art ... s-vaccine/
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By Crabcakes
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This is the real Jeremy Corbyn in a nutshell. He's either covering because he's not actually done something while all the time still telling people what an effort he has made - so it's all lip service and no substance, or he is deliberately choosing not to say something in case his actions upset his peers, even though saying he has had the jab could actively save lives - so it's all selfish, image-preserving hypocrisy and petty spite at 'the press'. And given he had his colleagues leak a report in an attempt to exonerate him that caused mental-health ruining pile-ons for those named within it, he can fuck right off with his feeble "oh people were mean to me once, so I'm not telling anyone anything now" excuse.

He is no longer Labour leader. He is under *no* pressure here, and yet in the former case he still can't bring himself to help others if it risks tarnishing his anti-vax/anti-big pharma/conspiracy loon credentials, and in the latter case he still prefers to add to his self-made narrative of being a good man working tirelessly for good causes by campaigning while actively avoiding taking a small, simple action (literally just saying 'yes' in answer to a straight, no-catches question) that could actually make a difference. Why do something when you can endlessly talk about doing it instead?

I don't care if he had the jab or not. I do care he can even take something this fucking easy, squander the opportunity to help, and instead make it a victim/hero narrative about himself with seemingly no inkling of the good he could do with a few words.
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By Oblomov
#4849
The Corbynistas amongst my social circles are adamant that his Brexit campaigning was fine because "we finally have a politician of conviction, we shouldn't tear him down for it" :roll:
By mattomac
#5019
Thing is, he ran knowing there would be a European Referendum, he ran knowing the majority of his party would and still are remain and would campaign as much.

But he ran for leadership anyhow, so that to me shows a man who was up to sabotage it. The fact is he didn’t have any conviction anyhow, he didn’t show for either side, he was more interested in his marrows.
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By Crabcakes
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mattomac wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:48 am The fact is he didn’t have any conviction anyhow, he didn’t show for either side, he was more interested in his marrows.
I think it may be slightly different. He approached it clearly not wanting to be in the EU but also very much wanting to leave on terms he set rather than the Tories. So despite his great claims to want more democracy in the party etc. he chuntered on, ignored what the vast majority in his party wanted and told him they wanted time and again, damned the EU with faint praise ("7/10") and minimal effort in the referendum, utterly refused to work with europhile Tories in any way because of his suffocating lefty dogma, and then assumed he could win the arguments after the event because...reasons.

As his absurd "the real fight starts now" tweet showed, *that's* what he cared about. Not staying in or reforming the EU, but the chance to bring about his lexit socialist dreamland which he sold to absolutely no one because he didn't have any plan or outline to sell outside of "EU capitalist so bad, Tories capitalist so bad, so my way better because my mum was at Cable Street".

He had conviction, but as ever it was conviction that he was right. Massive, groundless hubris bolted to non-stop amateur-hour incompetence, resulting in a flaming train wreck from start to finish.
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By Oblomov
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mattomac wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 12:48 am Thing is, he ran knowing there would be a European Referendum, he ran knowing the majority of his party would and still are remain and would campaign as much.

But he ran for leadership anyhow, so that to me shows a man who was up to sabotage it. The fact is he didn’t have any conviction anyhow, he didn’t show for either side, he was more interested in his marrows.
A fine line between "conviction" and "vanity project" it would seem.
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